.223 55gr Vmax vs Steel Target

Wallbass45

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I have never shot steel before and have bought a 6" 1/2"disk AR500 to shoot with .223.
Now I have read a article that AR500 is for Pistols and you need AR550 for Rifles.
Is it safe to shoot a .223 55gr Vmax at 1/2"AR500 with out Ricochet or damage to the Target ???
 
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Ive never had a ricochet shooting my plates with rifles. Ill say this, seems like the varmint bullets are murder on plates at 100yds and closer. Id back off 150yds and look for the amount of damage. I have damaged mine with my .223 using V-max and soft points, but that was at 100yds and less
 
Wallbass,,,I think the important point you need to look at is the type/grade of steel used in the target construction...There was quite a discussion on this a few years ago by a few members that were much more knowledgeable than me about the different grades of steel and the damage degree by various calibers..

This is one..I think there may be several more in the archives..
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1233697
 
You might get a small dimple with AR 500 steel at 100 Yards. As said above you might want to bang it from a little farther out to keep from dimpling it.
 
If it's AR500 steel you might get some light dimpling @ 100 yards but I know I shoot my 6" AR500 steel target all the time @ 200-400 yards and don't do any damage to it at all with a .20 cal.
 
Originally Posted By: Wallbass45I have never shot steel before and have bought a 6" 1/2"disk AR500 to shoot with .223.
Now I have read a article that AR500 is for Pistols and you need AR550 for Rifles.
Is it safe to shoot a .223 55gr Vmax at 1/2"AR500 with out Ricochet or damage to the Target ???

Whoever wrote that is a tool without much experience at all shooting steel targets. Before this horsehockey gets spread like butter across the Internet, I'll go a head and interject some real life experience.

The most common, widey used and sold steel for rifle targets is AR500 plate. I've got 6 plates in various sizes and have shot them with everything from fast 17's, 20's, 22cal, 6mm, 308, '06 and even 300 win mag without damage to the plate itself. For safety reasons and to keep the plates from damage, you will want those plates out at 200 or more when shooting those bigger 30 cal rifles. They can get pretty hard on them at closer ranges.

I've got a prairie dog popper plate from JC that my boys and I have pound the snot out of with vmax, ballistic tips, match bullets, spire points, hollow points well [beeep]... We've shot just about every type of bullet made at that thing out of a 223 without damaging the plate. The only exception to that would steel cored bullets, I don't buy that junk and there's a possibility that it could damage the plate so I don't and wouldn't shoot that ammo at plate.

If you bought AR500 plate and a 223 with a vmax damages the plate at 100 yards.... You surely didn't get what you supposedly paid for.

I don't have any current picks of plates from 223 at 100 yards but I can assure you it looks the same as the one below, no damage except for lead splatter marks. Notice, no pot marks or signs of penetration at all. 6x47L with 87gr vmax and 87gr Berger's. This was 400 yards but there's probably still more energy there than a 223 at 100. This last weekend my nephew shot one of my targets at 100 yards with my 6BR at 100 yards with 95gr SMK and it left no visible damage. This is 3/8 plate too, not 1/2"
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Give Jake a call over at JC Steel targets. He sells quality stuff at good prices and the money goes to a good cause. Plus, he's got a cool t-post hanger for his plates too.
http://www.jcsteeltargets.com

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BTW..
You can see my pistol targets in the background here. The rack with the two large plates is for centerfire and the small rack for rimfire. Both racks are mild steel, nothing special. The large ones are 3/8" that were cut from the center web of an I-beam. They've taken thousands of rounds from 9mm and 45acp. Larger pistol and I would want thicker plate to keep them from bending.

FYI on pistol targets. You want them on a solid mount with an angle towards the ground, not angled up for obvious reasons and not swinging. Swinging steel can put bullet jackets and lead right back at you, trust me.... I know this for fact.
 
I agree with ^^

I have a 10" AR500 .5" thick plate and we have shot the tar out of it.. with everything, for years.

The only thing that does damage to it is those stupid FMJ military bullets. Even those only do a dimple at 100, but it's not a big deal, It still works just fine and takes the pounding..

I use a Saw horse bracket from Home depot and a couple of 2x4's that are cut long to raise the target above the grass. I also use a shorter piece between the legs to keep them spread and hang the plate using those thick black bungies. Sometimes, i have to hang a rock from the cross post to weight the rig down so a swinging target doesn't knock the whole thing down.

But like said above, it takes everything and just needs a new coat of paint from time to time. I prefer Black with white lines so you can see where the bullets are taking the paint off. (its silver and contrasts with the black well)
 
AR500 Will dimple Ever so slightly at 100yrds with AE XM193 55fmj ammo, I have the plate to prove it LOL. Speed Kills Steel not just energy delivered to it. A 22-250 with 40 v-max will damage the crap out of ar500 at 100yrds while a 308win with 150 ballistic tip will just splash and chip the paint. that's the same reason that a 223 rem will damage steel at close range and a 45-70 will not even though the 45-70 hits with more energy!

Put your target at 150+ yards and use non FMJ/Steel core ammo and your target will last a LONG time.
 
FOR $40 it lasts long enough that i don't worry at all no matter what.

It would take a lot of ammo to finally punch through, so it's not really a big deal to me since i will get years of use before it doesn't stop the rounds.
 
Its a 4" not 6" typo. It is AR500 .5" steel w/2 ears to hang from chain at about a 20 degree backward slant.

I will hang it from a stand I will make out of 2"PVC, Hang Target Disk about 10" above the ground.

Being angled back and on chains should make it safe at 100yrs w/Vmax.

And I know .22,.22mag and 17hmr wont hurt it even at 50yrds


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