**22x6.8 Hornady Die set and RPG Barrel Group Buy**

Originally Posted By: varminter .223I will tell you this in Illinios bc has no bearing. I have 0 need for a slow azz .224 cartridge. All you need is a 1/4 mile laser cuz you cant shoot through a fence row or creek brush.


I do leave the Hornet on the shelf..lol I know it has it's place but I even reamed my FB to 223.

In the world of small fur critters flat rules. I know an 8" PD at an unkown range is far easier to hit at 4,000 FPS vs. 2800..lol

Greg
 
Unfortunately guys that's why it's a group buy. One or two choices and the prices get better. Getting the guys that make the products to give us a deal does involve trade offs.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: BleedsBlueI would be interested if a slower twist barrel was available.

Originally Posted By: varminter .223Ya a 12 twist is what I would prefer.

So buy the dies now and order your barrel separate or at a later date. The dies are really the important part here.

I'd like a 24" bull barrel, but I've spoken for one from the group buy, because that's just too cheap to pass up.
 
Originally Posted By: barkOriginally Posted By: BleedsBlueI would be interested if a slower twist barrel was available.

Originally Posted By: varminter .223Ya a 12 twist is what I would prefer.

So buy the dies now and order your barrel separate or at a later date. The dies are really the important part here.

I'd like a 24" bull barrel, but I've spoken for one from the group buy, because that's just too cheap to pass up.

I don't that they are going to offer a barrel twist rate suited to the varmint bullets that I like to use. otherwise I would be interested in helping out on this group buy.
 
8 twist 22X6.8 with 50 VMAX

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I think it will handle your little ones OK?

Greg
8 TWIST with a 40 at speed

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I ordered a custom barrel from Ritch long ago to get what I wanted. If you don't like the barrels offered you can do the same.
This group buy is about easy dies, buy your die and order what you want for a barrel if the barrels offered don't suit you. The barrel offering was just icing on the cake.

Yes mine is a 8 twist and all I will ever shoot out of it is 50's.
 
I too am planning on running 50's in mine. Already have a stockpile. After seeing Greg's targets I might start stockpiling 40's as well.
 
Pushed above 3750 they get iffy. I have pictures. Change to Nosler Ballistic Tips and all is right with the world again. Notice those 40's were fast and hung together. I've shot them at 4100 with no problem in an 8 twist. The jacket on the Nosler is just enough extra to to handle it.

Greg
 
Anyone had any success getting 55 bts to shoot out of a 22x6.8? My bhw 22 nosler 8 twist doesnt like them. Seems to be partial to 53 vmax.
 
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So what's the count on this? Are you not going to order until there's 25 or are you going to go at just 18 or what's happening? From what I understood you had to have 25.
 
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Originally Posted By: varminter .223Anyone had any success getting 55 bts to shoot out of a 22x6.8? My bhw 22 nosler 8 twist doesnt like them. Seems to be partial to 53 vmax.

I haven't tried any 55's in my 22X6.8 or my Nosler. Looking over my notes I have totally ignored that weight in all my 223 bores across the board shooting more 40's and 50's.

I suppose I could throw some together for my range trip next week as mine today got blown out.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: 204 ARI was thinking I read on here that Greg was blowing up 50 gr vmax in an 8 twist 22x6.8?

Here's some visual of what a high rotation speed and velocity can do to a 50 VMAX. Not every time but enough to let you know. At 3750 these start showing up. I had more than one that didn't make it to the target at 100 yards in a 100 round testing day. At 3700 I have had zero failures.

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Greg

On a side note I did a PD trip with the above load as they were already loaded. My goodness Ethel!!! When they hit it was the most devastating thing I've ever unleashed on them. I got four on one shot at 250 yards!!
 
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Out of curiosity why the infatuation of the fast twist these day? I always considered the 22 cal as a varmint caliber and if I was going to shoot a big game sized animal I would step up to the a .25 or 6 mm projectile vs. a long 22 cal as most 22 cal cases have a reduce propellant capacity. Seems the a slow twist would do so much better with 40 to 60's for yotes and smaller critters. I am not trying to be critical here but just trying to grasp the 8 twist concept. Is it a way over yonder target thing for guys west of the Mississippi? Way over yonder is more like right over yonder in Mable's back yard here in populationville.
 
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Originally Posted By: varminter .223Out of curiosity why the infatuation of the fast twist these day? I always considered the 22 cal as a varmint caliber and if I was going to shoot a big game sized animal I would step up to the a .25 or 6 mm projectile vs. a long 22 cal as most 22 cal cases have a reduce propellant capacity. Seems the a slow twist would do so much better with 40 to 60's for yotes and smaller critters. I am not trying to be critical here but just trying to grasp the 8 twist concept. Is it a way over yonder target thing for guys west of the Mississippi? Way over yonder is more like right over yonder in Mable's back yard here in populationville.

Mine was bacause I couldn't get anything slower than a 9 and because they happened to have a blank laying there they sent me in week. I also planned to shot the 77's. My 223's is 1:8 so I can shoot 500-1000 with it in matches. I don't own any 7's as the 8 handles the Nosler CC's so well.

And yes where I'm at out yonder really does mean out yonder. Obviously the fast rate ain't hurting any and gives me options. To get saddled with a 12 that couldn't even shoot a 62 or 69 would be criminal for me.

I don't go after big game with a 22 of any case size. I have many necked up/down in the same case to 30 caliber that are excellent for big game but I draw the line at 6 MM for consideration. Although I have enough skill and patience to put a bullet where it needs to go a 22 bore just wouldn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. Heck a 17-223 worked on a polar bear..LOL

Greg
 
I really would like to get in on these dies but I am not sure the 8 twist does me any good but that isn't really a deal breaker. Is today the cut off?
 
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Originally Posted By: varminter .223Out of curiosity why the infatuation of the fast twist these day? I always considered the 22 cal as a varmint caliber and if I was going to shoot a big game sized animal I would step up to the a .25 or 6 mm projectile vs. a long 22 cal as most 22 cal cases have a reduce propellant capacity. Seems the a slow twist would do so much better with 40 to 60's for yotes and smaller critters. I am not trying to be critical here but just trying to grasp the 8 twist concept. Is it a way over yonder target thing for guys west of the Mississippi? Way over yonder is more like right over yonder in Mable's back yard here in populationville.

My 1in8 shoots 40gr bullets 1/2" or less, matter of fact it shoots 50's, 55's the same, only bullet failure was 60gr partition. Never got a good group with them in anything. I ordered a 22x6.8 upper 1in8 twist never have found it a problem.
 
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