**22x6.8 Hornady Die set and RPG Barrel Group Buy**

So is today the cut off? I could be conned into this deal very easily......Shop has been slow but is starting to take off again. Just trying to avoid having to splain to the ol lady why I need to borrow the grocery money lol! New roof, new to me used tractor, trail xp50, etc. I have been dropping some coin as of late and I run outta my azz pocket not discover card's.
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Well midwest lemme know.....Im pretty much in and can cut a check about anytime. I just don't want to tie money up if the dies aren't going to be ordered for a while.
 
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Yes today is the deadline. 25 is the order minimum to get us the price break. If we make it to 20, we could make it happen but we need 8 or 9 more to get there and unless we get some folks to come forward this deal isnt happening.

Now I can still order dies if we don't make the 25 quota but the price goes up to $215. It sounds like there are one or 2 that will go this route if needed.

A third option, which was brought up to me via PM would be to see if everyone who is on board would want to buy 2 sets each to get us the price break then they would have a set to sell later to recoup the extra cost. This makes sense when you figure its only $35 more to buy 2 sets at discount vs 1 set at full price.

So, the ball is in your hands.

Do we drop this deal for now and maybe revisit it later?

Do you want to have a set made for $215?

Do you want to buy 2 sets at $125 and sell one off once folks realize what they are missing?

FWIW: I sold off the 5 extra sets Ritch bought in 6x6.8 plus another 5 overrun sets all before they were even shipped to me.

 
Originally Posted By: varminter .223Out of curiosity why the infatuation of the fast twist these day? I always considered the 22 cal as a varmint caliber and if I was going to shoot a big game sized animal I would step up to the a .25 or 6 mm projectile vs. a long 22 cal as most 22 cal cases have a reduce propellant capacity. Seems the a slow twist would do so much better with 40 to 60's for yotes and smaller critters. I am not trying to be critical here but just trying to grasp the 8 twist concept. Is it a way over yonder target thing for guys west of the Mississippi? Way over yonder is more like right over yonder in Mable's back yard here in populationville.

its like you took the words right out of my mouth.

the point that I am trying to get across is:

if we are trying to compete with 22-250 performance and speed and using the same projectiles why not take notes from the 22-250 playbook that has been tested for the last 80 years?

14 twist for up to 50gn bullets

12 twist for up to 60gn bullets

recently 8 twist for heavies 60gn and heavier

if we know that if the speeds are pushed to a desirable level and start having jacket failures what can be the route cause? too much twist?

why should one have to buy a certain expensive brand and type of bullet just to somewhat make it work?

if we are honest with ourselves and look at the need for an 8 twist (60-90gn bullets) how many people are going to use this configuration for benchrest shooting to 1000yds?

most likely the person that wants this wildcat will not use it for benchrest shooting, they will more than likely want it to "predator" hunt with. (typically 40-65gn bullet) which a 10 or 12 twist would be the perfect fit.

I personally would commit to 3 barrels and a set of dies if this project was built with a 10 or 12 twist. and I can assure you that if built this way it will sell itself without any promotion due to it being the "perfect combination".
 
Originally Posted By: BleedsBlueOriginally Posted By: varminter .223Out of curiosity why the infatuation of the fast twist these day? I always considered the 22 cal as a varmint caliber and if I was going to shoot a big game sized animal I would step up to the a .25 or 6 mm projectile vs. a long 22 cal as most 22 cal cases have a reduce propellant capacity. Seems the a slow twist would do so much better with 40 to 60's for yotes and smaller critters. I am not trying to be critical here but just trying to grasp the 8 twist concept. Is it a way over yonder target thing for guys west of the Mississippi? Way over yonder is more like right over yonder in Mable's back yard here in populationville.

its like you took the words right out of my mouth.

the point that I am trying to get across is:

if we are trying to compete with 22-250 performance and speed and using the same projectiles why not take notes from the 22-250 playbook that has been tested for the last 80 years?

14 twist for up to 50gn bullets

12 twist for up to 60gn bullets

recently 8 twist for heavies 60gn and heavier

if we know that if the speeds are pushed to a desirable level and start having jacket failures what can be the route cause? too much twist?

why should one have to buy a certain expensive brand and type of bullet just to somewhat make it work?

if we are honest with ourselves and look at the need for an 8 twist (60-90gn bullets) how many people are going to use this configuration for benchrest shooting to 1000yds?

most likely the person that wants this wildcat will not use it for benchrest shooting, they will more than likely want it to "predator" hunt with. (typically 40-65gn bullet) which a 10 or 12 twist would be the perfect fit.

I personally would commit to 3 barrels and a set of dies if this project was built with a 10 or 12 twist. and I can assure you that if built this way it will sell itself without any promotion due to it being the "perfect combination".






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Unfortunately it sounds like the deal isn't happening and I can't tie up 125 waiting around for something that may not happen and I dang sure can't pay 215. I will for sure take a set if I can get it for $125 but am I expected to send money now for a deal that may never transpire. Remember I bought 2 of the 6x6.8 dies and sold a buddy on a third set so Im not bsing. I hope this post doesn't come across negative because I appreciate you trying to put this together and the 6x6.8 dies are great. I am just trying to be purely objective and cut and dried on where I stand. Imo it nuts to pass up a set of one off dies in a caliber that I think is outstanding.
 
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No. I don't want to hang on to peoples money for no reason.

I get it, $215 for a set of dies is not easily justifiable for many people and that's why I did/try to put together a better deal to make it way more affordable. Unfortunately this time around it doesnt look like we have the support to move on it.

That said, there are options for those who want to buy the dies and I'm happy to place to order for those that do.
 
22-250 blue print? My 22-250's are 1-8 twist also.
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Shoots them all great and gives me options to shoot any weight bullet I want at any distance and at any target. Why limit yourself when there are more options to be had with the same barrel.
 
Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKER22-250 blue print? My 22-250's are 1-8 twist also.
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Shoots them all great and gives me options to shoot any weight bullet I want at any distance and at any target. Why limit yourself when there are more options to be had with the same barrel.




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Originally Posted By: GLShooterY'all know I'm not afraid of an 8 twist.

Greg
Well stuff a few of those cases with 55 nbts and see what gives if you would.
 
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Not to high jack but my fav 8 twist 22-250 is a suppressed 18 heavy barrel shooting a 50 NBT at 3600 FPS. A brother from another mother in ND got me hooked on them. Any of you know him? He goes by....skinney.
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Coyote killing machine in a bolt gun.
 
Originally Posted By: varminter .223Originally Posted By: GLShooterY'all know I'm not afraid of an 8 twist.

Greg
Well stuff a few of those cases with 55 nbts and see what gives if you would.

Consider it done.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: old catThanks for trying midwestpredator I appreciate it, maybe next time
Joey

+1 Thanks for trying.
 
Originally Posted By: tj66Originally Posted By: old catThanks for trying midwestpredator I appreciate it, maybe next time
Joey

+1 Thanks for trying.


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What kind of speed could I expect with a 18” barrel with 55 and 60 nosler btbt?

Note- haven’t been on here in a while and just saw this deal still in the works. Don’t like the Valkyrie and have had terrible luck with 22 nosler but on the edge of buying a new 22 nosler barrel.
 
Originally Posted By: jca57jdWhat kind of speed could I expect with a 18” barrel with 55 and 60 nosler btbt?

Note- haven’t been on here in a while and just saw this deal still in the works. Don’t like the Valkyrie and have had terrible luck with 22 nosler but on the edge of buying a new 22 nosler barrel.

I would say 3300 ish with the right powder.
 
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