.243 Win Combined Technologies Ballistic Silvertip?

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Can anyone tell me if this bullet (made by Nosler for Winchester) is molly coated? It is black like molly. Also, anybody know where I can find a load for it in the 95 grain variation with preferably IMR4895 as that is what I will be using to load my 58 Grain Hornady VMAX Moly bullets for the gun.

I am trying to get away from copper as it has a real affinity for sticking to my Howa barrell. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I have a couple of .243's & use the 95 gr. Ballistic Silvertip in them.
They do well for me on big game, & have shot several coyotes with them as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

It won't tear up a yote as bad as you might think. The jacket is pretty tough in the bullet for deer size game & usually won't open up enough for a big hole in a coyote....
Unless you hit bone, then all bets are off. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
I don't have fouling trouble.

The lubalox is a (for lack of a better word) Teflon type coating....

It won't come off in a tumbler like moly. Nor does it wear off in your pocket.
 
With normal mantainance(cleaning) you should not have any problems. I would not shoot moly then leave the barrel dirty though. Moly will attract moisture and cause rust, seen it happen before. Don't know how humid you get in Pennsylvania but out here a chamber and barrel can rust out in a few months if shot with moly and left uncleaned.BTW the lubaox coating was the stuff that was used on the Black Talon JHP bullets Winchester used to make for SD pistol ammo. Till the anti's started whineing and so Winchester took the Black off them. That was when they went to the CT rifle bullets, great projectiles BTW. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Anybody know where I can get reloading recipies for the Combined Technologies bullets in .243 Win?

PA is humid unfortunately.

The reason I don't want to shoot copper in this gun is I just melts into the barrell like bannanas. I guess it is the caliber or the ss barrel? Don't have near the copper fouling on my other rifles.
 
STD,

How many rounds do you have down the tube?

I had one that would copper foul. I polished the bore manually.
I mean I really took to it, & it looked like a mirror when I was done...
It solved my fouling problem, & I'm not sure it didn't shoot a little better after that as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Barry
 
Barry...I have 150 shots through it and clean it after each shooting which is usually around 20 shots. I load up the patch with Hoppe's Bench Rest and run a dry one through ten minutes later to check for any blue (copper) and even after hitting it hard with a brush and about ten of these patches it still comes out blue. I thought I had it good and clean and the gunsmith said it had a lot of copper still in it on the bolt end of the gun.
 
My Nosler reloading manual lists the 95 grain CT's with IMR4895 at a max of 35.5 grains at 2857 fps and a minimum of 31.5 grains at 2587 fps. The 31.5 grain loading is listed as the most accurate load.
 
The only thing (that I know of) that can cause it to foul up after so few shots to that extent is a rough bore.

There are some cases where lapping the bore can make a huge difference in the fouling & accuracy.
Most rifles, even though they may be cut rough through the bore will not show many signs as far as accuracy goes.

A friend had one that was fouling so bad his accuracy would fall off real quick after cleaning.
He got some sort of bullet that lapped the bore as you fired it...(I can;t remember what they were called)

It made a huge difference.
He never had issues with accuracy or fouling again.

In my opinion, if you are having excessive copper fouling, switching bullets to moly, or lubalox, will only compound the trouble because the moly & lubalox will adhere as bad or worse than the copper.

If it's relatively new rifle, & you don't have any luck, you might want to contact the manufacturer. Most of them will take care of you. Even out of warranty, or being not the original owner.

Barry
 
Thanks for the recipie deadeyerichard.

rockinbbar...lappiing is one thing the gunsmith has not mentioned? If it isn't working in a week I getting a used Savage .223. Any idea of the lapping bullet name your friend used?
 
Still hasn't come to me. (Google might do better)

But the thing about lapping is that it is used as a somewhat last resort on bores that may have corrosion, or fouling badly from pitting.

In one instance I have seen it used for a facorty rough bore.

You have to be careful with that sort of thing or the entire bore can go south.

Savage .223! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 


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