.25 caliber... .250 Savage Ackley??

Originally Posted By: BrentWin
If you are going with a long action, at least go with a 25-06. If you want max speed go with a 25-06AI. 3600 fps with a 100 gr. NBT will run with any 257 Weatherby and the brass isn't $2.00 a pc.

Factory brass can be quite expensive with the 257 WBY, however you can take 264 Win brass and run it through a 257 WBY die, and PRESTO! You have 257 WBY brass for much less cost
 
I still think a .260 rem or even a 7mm-08 is the way to go. . .there are even ackleyized versions of both if you must have the "cool factor". In a long action, i would def agree with the others on a .25/06 or improved version of it. . .25 cals are addicting!
 
Really? People have had 117s (look up Bob Milek) go through elk at 240+ yards from 25-06. 250 savage AI isn't that far behind. [beeep], look at the energy. If a 30-30 170 grain will do it at 100yards, with 1331 ft/lbs; then a 250 savage unimproved will do it with 1350. AND that is with a 100 grain bullet. 30-30 has killed more animals than any of us could imagine. So have black powder rim-fires. 250 savage is more than enough gun. [beeep], people used to kill deer with 25-35!!! And it was considered high powered compared to those sad little black powder rounds. AND people will even tell you here, and in the real world, how many deer they dropped with a 22-250. In fact Winchester advertises ammo for 22-250 to use on CXP2 game. Not big enough for some, but for those with kahones...

Improve the 250 Savage and blast away.
 
When all is said and done, the best two choices in my opinion for that short action is a .260 Rem or a 7mm-08. I am too stubborn to change rifles now after almost 40 years, so I will keep using my .257R. But, if I were building a light weight deer rifle or looking for an "all around" first rifle for a young shooter, it would be a .260 Rem or 7mm-08 depending on where I lived and the opportunities for elk and similar sized game.
 
Build the 250AI you will love it, back in the old days my friends uncle was a wolf and grizzly trapper, he had one rifle, guess what it was. A 257 roberts! I dont know how many he killed with it but it obviously got the job done for him. Now I am not recommending this as a griz gun but you can kill what you want to with a 250AI with good bullet placement, especially with all the good bullet choices we have today. Plus not many other people have one!
 
Originally Posted By: W. Chad ShultzBuild the 250AI you will love it, back in the old days my friends uncle was a wolf and grizzly trapper, he had one rifle, guess what it was. A 257 roberts! I dont know how many he killed with it but it obviously got the job done for him. Now I am not recommending this as a griz gun but you can kill what you want to with a 250AI with good bullet placement, especially with all the good bullet choices we have today. Plus not many other people have one!

What he said... the 250-3000 AI is a very fine cartridge, and a better fit to the Rem 700 short action than the 257 Roberts (which is a favorite of mine).
 
I have a Ruger 77R in 250-3000 and its been a favorite of mine since I bought it from a old gentleman at a local gun show years ago. I have mainly used the lighter bullets in it with great success, The 75gr Sierra HP and the Hornady 75gr V-Max has been my go to, IMR-3031 has been the powder giving the best accuracy.
 
Originally Posted By: nitisOriginally Posted By: BrentWinOriginally Posted By: nitis And no fire forming that came being a real pain

I have heard this statement several times and never really understood it. What is the drudgery of going to the range and shooting your rifle.

I don't think any of us can say that we send too much time behind the trigger working on our mechanics of shooting.

I could see it if you were a PD shooter and needed 1000 pcs. of brass fireformed, but fireforming 50 pcs. for a hunting rifle just doesn't seem like that bad a way to send a couple of hrs.

I actually just had this conversation with my uncle and I totally respect all AI tyoe rounds but I just do not have the time to put into them I want to get a load and see it perform. Not spend a day loading a bunch of brass then another at teh range and then start load work



Some people still believe this nonsense. Anybody thinks forming AI brass is a pain and takes extra time, it's because they just don't get it. The forming load is found just like any std. cartridge. They're shot in the field just like any other cartridge....just as accurate only going faster, and they produce an AI case. When it's time for loading formed brass, the load is already there......formed cases will take a little more powder. That's it. Real difficult...........
 
If you are using a .25 for deer, don't forget the 90 grain Sierra Game King. It is potent medicine for deer in my 257 Roberts.

I have had excellent results with the 100 grain Speer btsp in my 25-06. Dropped an antelope in his tracks at 350 in Wyoming back in October with that round.
 
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