archer_204
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I am seriously debating getting a .257 Weatherby for my arsenal...It will be used for antelope, long range yotes and some deer hunting...Those that have them, what are your thoughts?
.257 Weatherby anyone?
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Well, for what its worth my buddy has one and it seems like a pretty decent rig. Brass is expensive and its pretty loud although recoil was suprisingling light the few times I have shot it. Basically comes down to if the added velocity gains are worth the extra expense to you. If you are not looking for a factory rifle you might also looking into the 25.06 AI.
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archer_204
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From those I've talked to, the recoil appears to be slightly less than a .270...The speed has been what's really impressed me with this rifle...For starters I will be shooting factory loads so the 25.06 AI is out...The light recoil coupled with the velocity of this rig is what really intriques me...
I know a guy who bought one and sold ALL of his other guns! In fact, after all the others were sold ... he bought a second one for a spare!
I shot it and I have "not been the same since" ...........
(I liked it)
I too have contemplated one ..... I feel that the key here is figure the most proper way to keep it clean and don't issue rapid fire "statements" and it should serve you very well!
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I shot it and I have "not been the same since" ...........
(I liked it)
I too have contemplated one ..... I feel that the key here is figure the most proper way to keep it clean and don't issue rapid fire "statements" and it should serve you very well!
Three 44s
archer_204
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Here's my dilema...Go with the Weatherby .257 Mag. Mark V in the Ultra Light or have something custom made...I am really considering going the custom route with a carbon barrel...Something like a Christensen Arms...
archer_204
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anyone else?
Ok So you want a light, high-velocity rifle to hunt antelope, deer and coyotes at long range, Cost is no concern and you don't reload.
Your caliber selection is good but the cartridge is wack.
The Weatherby only offers about 200 fps over a Std 25-06 with more recoil and much more expensive shells. But if you can afford a custom rifle that won't make any difference. I could see you going with something more like a 25WSSM, 7-08 or a 300WSM or a 7mmSTW
Your caliber selection is good but the cartridge is wack.
The Weatherby only offers about 200 fps over a Std 25-06 with more recoil and much more expensive shells. But if you can afford a custom rifle that won't make any difference. I could see you going with something more like a 25WSSM, 7-08 or a 300WSM or a 7mmSTW
archer_204
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Bigdog...Your first sentence pretty much sums it up for me...A 25-06 and a 7mm stw have crossed my mind...But I like the ballistics of the .257...The .257 appears to be about 400 fps faster than the 25-06 with similar bullet weights...I already own a .270 WSM and would just like something a little lighter (smaller)...I don't shoot a ton of shells, so the price per box is not a big issue...Any other thoughts?
My first response was 22-250
your 270 will do everything the others will---you just don't have a long range small caliber.
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My second thought is remember---It's not velocity that kills it's placement. It took me a long time to realize that.
Third thought
Chances are your rifle shoots better than the two of us together and you'd be happy with better optics.
your 270 will do everything the others will---you just don't have a long range small caliber.
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My second thought is remember---It's not velocity that kills it's placement. It took me a long time to realize that.
Third thought
Chances are your rifle shoots better than the two of us together and you'd be happy with better optics.
tcman
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I started my 25 caliber trek with a custom barreled model 670 Winchester. Later in life, I had a Savage 7 mag rebarreled to 257 Weatherby Mag and had the barrel ported.
Long and short of it is I am now back to the 25-06 in an Encore rifle....sold the 257 Weatherby to a buddy.
I simply could not see the results of the extra powder and cost of brass as it compared to getting anything more than I could do with my 25-06.
Long and short of it is I am now back to the 25-06 in an Encore rifle....sold the 257 Weatherby to a buddy.
I simply could not see the results of the extra powder and cost of brass as it compared to getting anything more than I could do with my 25-06.
archer_204
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I draw the line at about $45.00 a box /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif...The 22-250 is a little lighter than I like for deer...If I am going to spend big dollars on this gun, I would like something I can comfortably use for deer...
archer_204
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bigdog...I just read the rest of your post...I have decent optics (Zeiss Conquest on every rifle I own)...I understand your second thought, however I would like something even flatter shooting...I couldn't agree with you more on the third thought...My .270 WSM is a Sako Finn lite with a VAIS break topped off with a Zeiss Conquest 3.5x10x44...I am positive it shoots better than I am capable of...
TCMan...You've definately got me thinking about the 25-06...I've owned a couple in the past and always regretted getting rid of them...I just really want to think this through before I stick this much money into another rifle...
TCMan...You've definately got me thinking about the 25-06...I've owned a couple in the past and always regretted getting rid of them...I just really want to think this through before I stick this much money into another rifle...
Well you certainly have optics and firearms covered.
And your right the 22-250 is usually not considered enough for deer or antelope, and Weatherby shells at Cabela's run in the $35 to $50 per box range.
To let you know, I've had a 25-06 for years so the Weatherby has little to offer me. In fact when I bought my rifle it was a 257 Roberts. But for chasing mule deer in Eastern Oregon I couldn't wait to get something bigger and faster, just like everyone else I hunted with. So I had it rechambered into the 25-06 and it's been a very good round.
However I've actually thought over the years that I should have left it in the Roberts or maybe just rechambered to a 25 Souper (08). But in those years I didn't reload so the 25 Souper was out. To bad you don't reload you'd have a much larger variety of shells and bullets to choose from.
One round that is often overlooked is the 264 Win Mag. It's very fast and flat but it got a bad reputation when it was first out for turning deer meat to jelly. The problem wasn't the round, it was the bullets of-the-day couldn't stay together at short ranges at the high velocity of this round. But after just looking though available cartridges in Cabelas ammo section of their catalog, I see I've oversold this round too because I can only find ONE manufactured round available for it which isn't good.
So I guess after all these words, that if I was you, the 257 Weatherby would look pretty darn good---and you know what!----it is-------- though so is your 270WSM. The problem is these two cartridges are so alike you'll have a hard time figuring out which one to take shooting.
And your right the 22-250 is usually not considered enough for deer or antelope, and Weatherby shells at Cabela's run in the $35 to $50 per box range.
To let you know, I've had a 25-06 for years so the Weatherby has little to offer me. In fact when I bought my rifle it was a 257 Roberts. But for chasing mule deer in Eastern Oregon I couldn't wait to get something bigger and faster, just like everyone else I hunted with. So I had it rechambered into the 25-06 and it's been a very good round.
However I've actually thought over the years that I should have left it in the Roberts or maybe just rechambered to a 25 Souper (08). But in those years I didn't reload so the 25 Souper was out. To bad you don't reload you'd have a much larger variety of shells and bullets to choose from.
One round that is often overlooked is the 264 Win Mag. It's very fast and flat but it got a bad reputation when it was first out for turning deer meat to jelly. The problem wasn't the round, it was the bullets of-the-day couldn't stay together at short ranges at the high velocity of this round. But after just looking though available cartridges in Cabelas ammo section of their catalog, I see I've oversold this round too because I can only find ONE manufactured round available for it which isn't good.
So I guess after all these words, that if I was you, the 257 Weatherby would look pretty darn good---and you know what!----it is-------- though so is your 270WSM. The problem is these two cartridges are so alike you'll have a hard time figuring out which one to take shooting.
Husker98
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I love the 257 calibers. I have a Mark V in 257 WBY, so do two other friends of mine. My uncle has a 25-06 and has great envy. It's true the 25-06 would have probably killed every animal I've ever shot with my Weatherby, but that isn't the point. If I can have the best I want it. Ballistics are about little projectiles going very fast. An increase of 200 or 400 fps is a lot! I also like having something a little different. Yeah, it costs more, so what! I stopped pinching pennies when I retired my dad's old 30-30. It's faster, flatter, and in all the rifles I've seen very very accurate. That being said, I have to agree with MUDFLAP. I'd take a look at Lazzeroni before making a decision. I may not be pinching pennies, but I still can't afford the Lazzeroni.....yet. When I can, I'll own one.
AlaskaBushMan
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Had a 257 WBY in Accumark great shooter, just wasted to much powder for what I needed it for. The 25 WSSM should be a excellent performer and cheaper brass too!
archer_204
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Here's another dilema: If I were to go the Weatherby route, would you choose the Mark V Ultra Lightweight or the Mark V Accumark?
Husker...Which models do you and your buddies have?
Husker...Which models do you and your buddies have?
Yotecallr
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Think about this, if you go to a 26" custom barrel 25-06 AI made the way you like it, the animal isn't going to know the difference when it's shot which caliber you used. The money you would save on the ammo vs Whby ammo would help the cost of the custom barrel, (I'm thinking Pac-Nor)and the difference in trajectory is minimal. If that's not enough, just tell yourself it's a Weatherby and be happy with it. With all the powders available, you should be able to equal or surpass the Weatherby with the AI.
broknaero
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my opinion:
since you asked...
if you already have a .270wsm most seem to agree that its a fine round for antelope and deer. im an east coast guy, never hunted antelope so this is just an opinion. since deer and coyote are more than covered you need a long range coyote round. and you want something unique, but that you dont have to reload. around $1000 you can get a custome CZ with pac-nor barrel(sporter or varmit) bedded, with trigger job in 19/223. thats one heck of a long range coyote round!
and lots of folks havent even heard of it, and you can order loaded ammo from james calhoon pretty cheep. now most reloaders will have heard of the 19/223 but not the average shooter. and the reloaders that have heard of the 19/223 know of it cause they probably order .22 cal and .17 cal bullets from calhoon and heard about his .19 cals from that. and his calhoon bullets are great on coyotes,accurate too. check it out, you can find the 19/223 balistics on his site. see for yourself
since you asked...
if you already have a .270wsm most seem to agree that its a fine round for antelope and deer. im an east coast guy, never hunted antelope so this is just an opinion. since deer and coyote are more than covered you need a long range coyote round. and you want something unique, but that you dont have to reload. around $1000 you can get a custome CZ with pac-nor barrel(sporter or varmit) bedded, with trigger job in 19/223. thats one heck of a long range coyote round!
and lots of folks havent even heard of it, and you can order loaded ammo from james calhoon pretty cheep. now most reloaders will have heard of the 19/223 but not the average shooter. and the reloaders that have heard of the 19/223 know of it cause they probably order .22 cal and .17 cal bullets from calhoon and heard about his .19 cals from that. and his calhoon bullets are great on coyotes,accurate too. check it out, you can find the 19/223 balistics on his site. see for yourself
archer_204
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The more I listen to you guys, the more I am coming to realize that I may not need a .257...In time, maybe this .257 gas pain will go away...
broknaero...A yote gun is the least of my concerns as I already own a .204, a .223 and a .22 Hornet Browning Medallions, and a .223 Bushmaster Varminter...My thought was the .257 could be used for yotes while antelope and deer hunting...
yotecallr...Here's a dumb question for you...I know absolutely nothing about Ackley Improved cart.'s Can you enlighten me? Does this shoot a standard 25-06 round or does it require a wildcat reload?...
broknaero...A yote gun is the least of my concerns as I already own a .204, a .223 and a .22 Hornet Browning Medallions, and a .223 Bushmaster Varminter...My thought was the .257 could be used for yotes while antelope and deer hunting...
yotecallr...Here's a dumb question for you...I know absolutely nothing about Ackley Improved cart.'s Can you enlighten me? Does this shoot a standard 25-06 round or does it require a wildcat reload?...