.260 As an LR round
- Thread starter Bryan8
- Start date
kyotekiller25
Well-known member
Itll get to 800 yards with a few bullets quite easily. Id run the 123g amax out of it, or maybe the 130g vld.
Jack Roberts
Moderator - Deceased
Action choice aside, get a 308. It has enough barrel life that you can actually learn long range shooting with one barrel.
There are better chambers once you learn how to shoot long range. None of them will last long enough for you to really learn without rebarreling.
Jack
There are better chambers once you learn how to shoot long range. None of them will last long enough for you to really learn without rebarreling.
Jack
I truely love the Rem 700 ......
...... but I am having a lot of fun with the Savages .... buying and switching barrels .....
Now, you can have your cake and eat it too because McGowen is making "nutted" barrels for Remingtons .... use the same Savage barrel wrench on it.
Three 44s
...... but I am having a lot of fun with the Savages .... buying and switching barrels .....
Now, you can have your cake and eat it too because McGowen is making "nutted" barrels for Remingtons .... use the same Savage barrel wrench on it.
Three 44s
Curlywoods
New member
Shilen has a new action with the best of both worlds. It is based upon the Rem 700 receiver and the Savage floating bolt head and Savage barrel nut. No more need for smith to fit quality barrels! Stiller is making the action for Shilen, so they will be well made.
There are more and more accessories for the Savages everyday due to their increasing market share. Custom stock manufacturers are getting on the bandwagon with McMillan, Manners, H-S Precision, etc all make stocks for the Savages these days. Triggers are not a problem either with Rifle Basix and my favorites the Sharp Shooters Supply triggers.
Pre-fit barrels of great quality from Shilen, Pac-Nor, Benchmark and more and more barrel makers all the time due to the increasing popularity of the Savages. Times they are a changing......
There are more and more accessories for the Savages everyday due to their increasing market share. Custom stock manufacturers are getting on the bandwagon with McMillan, Manners, H-S Precision, etc all make stocks for the Savages these days. Triggers are not a problem either with Rifle Basix and my favorites the Sharp Shooters Supply triggers.
Pre-fit barrels of great quality from Shilen, Pac-Nor, Benchmark and more and more barrel makers all the time due to the increasing popularity of the Savages. Times they are a changing......
Curlywoods
New member
More hate is all that you can offer as a rebuttal? Bury your head some more there oh wise one. Savage has become extremely popular and some people just can not stand it. Dinosaurs are extinct too, in case you may have just awoke from a deep sleep!
Checked out any F-Class results lately? I seem to see Savages in the top 5 more and more these days, with more and more outright wins, but I guess that is aberration. Checked out 6mmBR forums lately? Those bench rest shooter and F-Class guys are singing the praises more and more about the Savages too. Wonder why Shilen decided upon this format for their new action?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and how about the results from last years F-Class World Championships in Bisley, England. F Class World Championships
"It seems hard to believe you can compete and win at the highest levels of long-range shooting competition with a stock factory rifle, but that’s exactly what Team Savage did at the recent F Class world championships in Bisley, England. The team dominated the F-T/R division, winning a total of 14 medals at the World Championships proper and various side matches associated with the event.
Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR,; Darrell Buell Damascus, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and John Weil of Welches, OR made the trip across the Atlantic to represent the US and Savage Arms. The competition is held once every four years and features some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the globe. The matches are held over several days, at distances of 800, 900 and 1,000 yards.
The Savage Shooters used the Model 12 F-T/R from Savage Arms. This exact model can be purchased from any Savage Arms dealer and carries a suggested retail price of just $1,265. The results speak for themselves: Team Savage comes home with Seven gold medals, two silvers and two bronze from the World Championships. They also earned two gold medals and a bronze a the associated side matches, including one held in Ireland."
And then there is this season:
Team Savage Wraps Up Long-Range Season in Dominant Fashion
Checked out any F-Class results lately? I seem to see Savages in the top 5 more and more these days, with more and more outright wins, but I guess that is aberration. Checked out 6mmBR forums lately? Those bench rest shooter and F-Class guys are singing the praises more and more about the Savages too. Wonder why Shilen decided upon this format for their new action?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and how about the results from last years F-Class World Championships in Bisley, England. F Class World Championships
"It seems hard to believe you can compete and win at the highest levels of long-range shooting competition with a stock factory rifle, but that’s exactly what Team Savage did at the recent F Class world championships in Bisley, England. The team dominated the F-T/R division, winning a total of 14 medals at the World Championships proper and various side matches associated with the event.
Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR,; Darrell Buell Damascus, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and John Weil of Welches, OR made the trip across the Atlantic to represent the US and Savage Arms. The competition is held once every four years and features some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the globe. The matches are held over several days, at distances of 800, 900 and 1,000 yards.
The Savage Shooters used the Model 12 F-T/R from Savage Arms. This exact model can be purchased from any Savage Arms dealer and carries a suggested retail price of just $1,265. The results speak for themselves: Team Savage comes home with Seven gold medals, two silvers and two bronze from the World Championships. They also earned two gold medals and a bronze a the associated side matches, including one held in Ireland."
And then there is this season:
Team Savage Wraps Up Long-Range Season in Dominant Fashion
nomosendero
New member
Originally Posted By: SuperSeal110Trued sucks action
Any of the top barrel makers (PN, Mike Rock, Krieger...ect.)
1:8" twist
24"
Reworked '700 trigger, RB, or Jewell trigger
McMillan, Manners, HS/BC stock, or perhaps a VS take off or VLS take off stock
Seekin's 20 moa rail
Seekins 1"/30mm low rings
Scope (insert here.)
I think that is good advise if it fits the budget with a quality scope.
I have a bunch of Rem. 700's & they are my favorite, however I am aware of the
results at the range with Savages & also the good shooting factory options.
If your budget is more modest, you may look at this with good glass.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10PREDATORHUNTERMAX1
Any of the top barrel makers (PN, Mike Rock, Krieger...ect.)
1:8" twist
24"
Reworked '700 trigger, RB, or Jewell trigger
McMillan, Manners, HS/BC stock, or perhaps a VS take off or VLS take off stock
Seekin's 20 moa rail
Seekins 1"/30mm low rings
Scope (insert here.)
I think that is good advise if it fits the budget with a quality scope.
I have a bunch of Rem. 700's & they are my favorite, however I am aware of the
results at the range with Savages & also the good shooting factory options.
If your budget is more modest, you may look at this with good glass.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/10PREDATORHUNTERMAX1
Hoier
New member
A Remington is all fine and dandy but a good shooting Remington and budget don't belong in the same sentence. I'm not saying anything bad about them just that you get way more bang for your buck with a Saveqge. And if you plan on changing the trigger also then I would suggest going with a Stevens because they are the same as a Savage minus the stock and trigger.
bluealtered
New member
Back to the question, northlander on the savage shooters site has just posted a new list of new savage actions at good prices.
He also has criterion barrels at good prices, criterion is a branch of krieger barrels, i use a savage/krieger in .260 with a 1:8 twist and 24" bull barrel that shoots considerbly better than my ability. The load for that rifle is 42grs of H4350 and either 142gr smk's or 140gr a-maxs. And will go the distance with no problems.
I'm ordering my new savage action this morning for my new lightweight .260 hunter from northlander, this one will use a 2 lb ss mcgowen 1:8 twist barrel. Found it in the classifieds at savage shooters.
A good read on the .260 remington is at demigodll.com type in .260 remington. Hope that helps, blue.
He also has criterion barrels at good prices, criterion is a branch of krieger barrels, i use a savage/krieger in .260 with a 1:8 twist and 24" bull barrel that shoots considerbly better than my ability. The load for that rifle is 42grs of H4350 and either 142gr smk's or 140gr a-maxs. And will go the distance with no problems.
I'm ordering my new savage action this morning for my new lightweight .260 hunter from northlander, this one will use a 2 lb ss mcgowen 1:8 twist barrel. Found it in the classifieds at savage shooters.
A good read on the .260 remington is at demigodll.com type in .260 remington. Hope that helps, blue.
2muchgun
New member
Originally Posted By: HoierA Remington is all fine and dandy but a good shooting Remington and budget don't belong in the same sentence. I'm not saying anything bad about them just that you get way more bang for your buck with a Savage
I'm honestly not trying to start crap here, but this is the exact attitude that every savage Shooter I know seems to portray. The bottom line always seems to be price, not performance. I never hear the Remington crowd bring up price. Only performance.
Don't take this the wrong way, cuz I understand that some folks have more money than others, and I've got friends with money and friends without and like them just the same.
It's just that I sometimes wonder how many shooters would be running Remington's instead of Savages if price was no issue. I'm not saying there are none out there that truly like Savage better regardless of price, but I've always gotten the vibe from the Savage crowd that it's an affordability thing.
I've owned/shot plenty of Savages. Truth is, I really have nothing against them. They shoot, the prices are fair, and they are USA made. Hard to dislike. I's just that Remington retains those 3 attributes as well with a slightly higher price but not so much higher as to sway my decision. I like the Remington action better, as far as how the bolt works and strips down, the trigger, and the overall appearance.
Anyway, I'd gladly take a Savage over an A-Bort, Tikka, and some others. I just wonder sometimes if some go with Savage simply because it fits their budget, or if they truly feel them to be superior, because I have not......
I'm honestly not trying to start crap here, but this is the exact attitude that every savage Shooter I know seems to portray. The bottom line always seems to be price, not performance. I never hear the Remington crowd bring up price. Only performance.
Don't take this the wrong way, cuz I understand that some folks have more money than others, and I've got friends with money and friends without and like them just the same.
It's just that I sometimes wonder how many shooters would be running Remington's instead of Savages if price was no issue. I'm not saying there are none out there that truly like Savage better regardless of price, but I've always gotten the vibe from the Savage crowd that it's an affordability thing.
I've owned/shot plenty of Savages. Truth is, I really have nothing against them. They shoot, the prices are fair, and they are USA made. Hard to dislike. I's just that Remington retains those 3 attributes as well with a slightly higher price but not so much higher as to sway my decision. I like the Remington action better, as far as how the bolt works and strips down, the trigger, and the overall appearance.
Anyway, I'd gladly take a Savage over an A-Bort, Tikka, and some others. I just wonder sometimes if some go with Savage simply because it fits their budget, or if they truly feel them to be superior, because I have not......
Hoier
New member
I truly like Savage better because they are the "most accurate out of the box" rifle. I like how I can do my own barrel changes in about 10 minutes. The initial gun cost doesn't matter much to me, i think Remington's quality control has dropped dramatically lately. Plus I don't think Savages are all that much cheaper anymore. And if you really want to argue about performance then I'd take my $770 LRPV 22-250 over any of the wall Remington. So off the shelf vs. off the shelf I'd take the Savage everyday and twice on Saturdays.
I'm "like Jesus" ...... I love'm all!
If it shoots well ...... I am ALL OVER IT!
I own Savages and I don't look down my nose at Remington and I have seen a plenty of the reverse.
The world is a big 'ole place why is it "one or the other" ....... because the reality is that as one rifle begins to win the acolades ...... the other manufacturing companies have to take up the slack to stay in the game!
We all win .... it's called COMPETITION!
Happy to have many different rifles in my gun corral!
Three 44s
If it shoots well ...... I am ALL OVER IT!
I own Savages and I don't look down my nose at Remington and I have seen a plenty of the reverse.
The world is a big 'ole place why is it "one or the other" ....... because the reality is that as one rifle begins to win the acolades ...... the other manufacturing companies have to take up the slack to stay in the game!
We all win .... it's called COMPETITION!
Happy to have many different rifles in my gun corral!
Three 44s
2muchgun
New member
It seems to me, the people I keep hearing talking about Remington's quality going down hill, aren't the ones who have been buying them. So how do they know? Guys who I know 100% for sure do not own a 700 nor have they, telling me about the quality. Yet the guys like myself who mhave owned a multitude of them, no complaints. The 700 owners seem to be perfectly happy with them.
IME, Remington shoots just as good out of the box as Savage. However, you make a good point here. I think a lot of Savage guys never plan on altering their factory rifles, and a lot of 700 guys buy them with the intentions of customizing.......
IME, Remington shoots just as good out of the box as Savage. However, you make a good point here. I think a lot of Savage guys never plan on altering their factory rifles, and a lot of 700 guys buy them with the intentions of customizing.......
bluealtered
New member
bryan8 started this post because the last one was locked, we all have different brands we like, thats not the point here. How about we help bryan8 in what he's trying to do and leave our own favorites out of it. blue
Last edited:
Curlywoods
New member
Originally Posted By: 2muchgun
"I'm honestly not trying to start crap here".
I would never have guessed that!
Originally Posted By: 2muchgun The bottom line always seems to be price, not performance. I never hear the Remington crowd bring up price. Only performance.
I do not recall anyone discussing price with regards to Savage vs Remington. I doubt that you will find similar Savages any cheaper than similar Remington's these days. Now if you are talking about a Stevens 200 rifle, well maybe some buyers are there due to price, but again I think that these folks are simply looking for performance for what they are spending. If it were not they would likely build a custom rig. I mean performance and cost go hand in hand. I will not spend more for something that I do not feel that will perform better. Why in the world would anyone do that?
"I'm honestly not trying to start crap here".
I would never have guessed that!
Originally Posted By: 2muchgun The bottom line always seems to be price, not performance. I never hear the Remington crowd bring up price. Only performance.
I do not recall anyone discussing price with regards to Savage vs Remington. I doubt that you will find similar Savages any cheaper than similar Remington's these days. Now if you are talking about a Stevens 200 rifle, well maybe some buyers are there due to price, but again I think that these folks are simply looking for performance for what they are spending. If it were not they would likely build a custom rig. I mean performance and cost go hand in hand. I will not spend more for something that I do not feel that will perform better. Why in the world would anyone do that?
Hoier
New member
But if Bryan8 said he wasn't on a budget I'd tell him to go with a Surgeon action which is a copy of a Remington but he's on a $1500 budget and that would eat up all of it. So to spend his $1500 wisely I think for him to buy a Savage is smarter because he'll have more money leftover for glass in the end.
2muchgun
New member
Originally Posted By: bluealteredbryan8 started this post because the last one was locked, we all have different brands we like, thats not the point here. How about we help bryan8 in what he's trying to do and leave our own favorites out of it. blue
Maybe you are right, Blue.
Maybe Bryan should tell us what he is planning on going with, then we can help him out from there, not try to change his mind......
Maybe you are right, Blue.
Maybe Bryan should tell us what he is planning on going with, then we can help him out from there, not try to change his mind......
Curlywoods
New member
Originally Posted By: 2muchgun I think a lot of Savage guys never plan on altering their factory rifles, and a lot of 700 guys buy them with the intentions of customizing.......
From my experience this is not true. I would imagine that there are at least equal percentages of those that want to modify their stock rifles, but I would say that Savage owners would be most likely to modify their rifles as they are so easy to work on without paying a gunsmith to much of the work that would be required with a Remington 700. Pre-fit barrels are widely available from quality barrel makers, they are very easy to swap and headspace. Aftermarket stock manufacturers are now truly supporting Savage owners due to demand. The market has demanded it or else those manufacturers not willing to step up would be missing out a ever growing income source for themselves.
From my experience this is not true. I would imagine that there are at least equal percentages of those that want to modify their stock rifles, but I would say that Savage owners would be most likely to modify their rifles as they are so easy to work on without paying a gunsmith to much of the work that would be required with a Remington 700. Pre-fit barrels are widely available from quality barrel makers, they are very easy to swap and headspace. Aftermarket stock manufacturers are now truly supporting Savage owners due to demand. The market has demanded it or else those manufacturers not willing to step up would be missing out a ever growing income source for themselves.