Threewisemen
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I'm looking for a factory wolf round you'd use for closer range (I live in MN so the average shot would probably be around 50-75 yards) in a 270 that will minimize pelt damage. I know each ammo behaves differently with every rifle, but I'd like to get some imput before I buy a bunch of ammo and head to the range. Even with the perfect light round the 270 will probably still be overkill for a wolf at that close of range since a lot of my buddies in Alaska seem to swear by 223 or 22/250's inside of 200yrds, but I'm not in a position to go buy more guns this year.
I started out looking at the energy of heavy 22/250 and .223 rounds since that seems to be the popular caliber for short range. The(Hornady 75gr) .223 was 1209ft/lbs energy@100yrds and (Hornady 60gr) 22/250 was 1360ft/lbs energy@100yrds. I then looked at a pretty typical deer round on the lighter side of the 270 which is
Fed 130gr nosler parition and that had a 2829ft/lbs energy at 100 yards with 2310ft/sec@100yrds velocity; more energy than the 223 and the 22/250 added together! So a typical deer round would do fine, but that's a lot more killing power than needed and if I never had a good angled shot present itself I might be looking at a messier kill than what I want.
Rem's Managed Recoil 115gr SP round looks like it might be a good option. It has 1485ft/lbs at 100 yards with 2412ft/sec@100yrds velocity. Seems like it lowers the energy to a mid 243 round nicely.
MagTech (S&B?) 100gr Nosler Partition round is something that I could find using a simple search on most of the gun ammo sites, but couldn't actually find any info on the round (on MagTech or S&B's website). The only ballistics info I could find is that it has a muzzle energy of 1788ft/lbs at 2838ft/sec muzzle velocity. (comparable to Rem's Managed Recoil round that is 1875ft/lbs and 2710ft/sec @muzzle.) I would assume that this is a discontinued round. It's listed as MagTech, but almost all the sites show the S&B bullet box in the picture. If anyone has any info or links that would be helpful.
Hornady's Custom Lite 120gr SST round another I looked at, but am unfamiliar with the SST. Some people compared it to a nosler ballistic tip (which I'd want to steer clear of if I only had a broadside shot). That has 1605ft/lbs@100 at 2454ft/sec@100yrds velocity. The last round I looked at is a bit of an odd-duck and probably would not use it, but I wanted to toss it in since it's one of the few factory loads for a 270 that comes in under it's standard 130gr round size.
Norma Kalahari 120gr HP has 2294ft/lbs energy at 100yrds. It's a HP which scares me enough to probably not use it, but it had some interesting ballistic properties so I wanted to list it and see what people thought. There's a youtube vid if you search Norma Kalahari and explains the ballistics of the round. Most of the other rounds have comparable velocities. However, this round has a much higher velocity than the other rounds listed at 2934ft/sec@100yards.
I already know shot placement is key to saving pelts, various ammo will perform better in different guns, there's better calibers that will provide less damage at
I started out looking at the energy of heavy 22/250 and .223 rounds since that seems to be the popular caliber for short range. The(Hornady 75gr) .223 was 1209ft/lbs energy@100yrds and (Hornady 60gr) 22/250 was 1360ft/lbs energy@100yrds. I then looked at a pretty typical deer round on the lighter side of the 270 which is
Fed 130gr nosler parition and that had a 2829ft/lbs energy at 100 yards with 2310ft/sec@100yrds velocity; more energy than the 223 and the 22/250 added together! So a typical deer round would do fine, but that's a lot more killing power than needed and if I never had a good angled shot present itself I might be looking at a messier kill than what I want.
Rem's Managed Recoil 115gr SP round looks like it might be a good option. It has 1485ft/lbs at 100 yards with 2412ft/sec@100yrds velocity. Seems like it lowers the energy to a mid 243 round nicely.
MagTech (S&B?) 100gr Nosler Partition round is something that I could find using a simple search on most of the gun ammo sites, but couldn't actually find any info on the round (on MagTech or S&B's website). The only ballistics info I could find is that it has a muzzle energy of 1788ft/lbs at 2838ft/sec muzzle velocity. (comparable to Rem's Managed Recoil round that is 1875ft/lbs and 2710ft/sec @muzzle.) I would assume that this is a discontinued round. It's listed as MagTech, but almost all the sites show the S&B bullet box in the picture. If anyone has any info or links that would be helpful.
Hornady's Custom Lite 120gr SST round another I looked at, but am unfamiliar with the SST. Some people compared it to a nosler ballistic tip (which I'd want to steer clear of if I only had a broadside shot). That has 1605ft/lbs@100 at 2454ft/sec@100yrds velocity. The last round I looked at is a bit of an odd-duck and probably would not use it, but I wanted to toss it in since it's one of the few factory loads for a 270 that comes in under it's standard 130gr round size.
Norma Kalahari 120gr HP has 2294ft/lbs energy at 100yrds. It's a HP which scares me enough to probably not use it, but it had some interesting ballistic properties so I wanted to list it and see what people thought. There's a youtube vid if you search Norma Kalahari and explains the ballistics of the round. Most of the other rounds have comparable velocities. However, this round has a much higher velocity than the other rounds listed at 2934ft/sec@100yards.
I already know shot placement is key to saving pelts, various ammo will perform better in different guns, there's better calibers that will provide less damage at