Originally Posted By: MPFD"if i recall correctly the 110 vmax has a minimum expansion velocity of 1600 fps - which is pretty much where that bullet is at approx 300 yds (1617 fps) when fired at 2400 fps MV."
Have you shot it at 300 yards on soft targets or are you just on here spouting theories you've never tested, based off internet calculators?
have you shot that bullet at soft targets at 300 yards? or are you spouting theories you've never tested based on the fact that you're p!ssed off i gave my opinion on the subject to help people make informed decisions on their projectile and caliber choice for hunting?
i dont always post to only to give feedback to the OP - its as much as helping the next guy who may google this thread as it is about giving my opinion about what you're directly discussing.
on that note we're discussing hunting, which needs to be done responsibly. just lobbing bullets out there hoping they're gonna be effective without some info to back that up ISNT responsible. just because it makes metal go "ding" doesnt mean its the right bullet for the job or that special considerations may be needed to make an ethical kill with it.
and yes - im here spouting theories based on my experience with OTHER projectiles that were used very close to their minimum expansion velocity and the poor results from said experiences. after learning from those mistakes the hard way (one such experience ended with me being unable to recover a deer for the first time in 20+ years of hunting) i tend to trust the bullet manufacturer's when they say "our product is designed to do this". its a humbling lesson to have to learn as a hunter, especially the hard way.
and yes i have no problem using internet calculators - especially when its the hornady ballistic calculator - to get data so that i can make an informed decision as to the likely hood of something happening the way its supposed to.
the 300 blackout is not a long range hunting cartridge by ANYONES definition - including the folks who produce firearms and ammo for it. 300 yards is definitely at the responsible hunting limit of the caliber with *ANY* projectile.
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oint is make sure your shot hits something vital when you're pushing the limits of a bullets design parameters.
i'm not saying - nor DID I say that you cant kill with it - just that you had to be very cautious to ensure you get a good vitals hit at the ranges you're discussing (300 yds) because of the limitations of both the projectile choice (the 110 vmax) and the caliber (300 blk) its gonna be fired out of.
if i were trying to hunt at those ranges with the blackout i would choose the barnes 110gr Tac-Tx blacktip. that bullet is specifically engineered to expand down to 1400 fps - which at 300 yards leaves you some margin for error for them to actually open like they're supposed to and give you the best chance of getting a clean, ethical kill at the distances being discussed.
so that said - feel free to take the info, do what you want with it, based on what i charged you for it.
here's to hoping you have a successful hunt and a beautiful labor day weekend.