300 SA Ultra Mag Questions......possible rebarreling

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GHK

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Ok guys I have some questions pertaining to a gun I found at a local shop. Its at an absolutly smoking deal so its very tempting but I know very little about this caliber. I am espcially concerned about recoil as it would be for a smaller framed shooter........not nessicarily recoil shy but I wouldn't want to push my luck with it and have them develope flinch. Can someone who has shot it compare the recoil to a more popular caliber.

My other question is because this is such a good deal it is hard to pass up and if I decieded that I didnt like the caliber would rebarreling it be and option(its a ruger) for a reasonable price and for a guy(me) with little gunsmithing ability as of yet. Basically I dont know much about rebarreling and caliber swapping but it sounds like a common thing from other posts here and I would apprciate some info.

Thanks for the help
 
It WILL kick, about the same as a 300Win Mag for comparison. Rebarreling is probably not a good option from a monetary standpoint as besides the barrel, you would need to change the bolt face to go to a non-magnum chambering.
 
Be kinda careful. Very popular awhile back. I assume in a 300 rem short action ultra mag. Not much in factory ammo. Pretty pricy when you find it. Just about the recoil of 300 win mag. Some percieve it as less. I have had one. If you rebarreled it the bolt face is larger that most std calibers. Lot of people who oned them, hot rodded them trying to beat 300 wm speeds. I see it as a B/A short action 30-06. Thats not all bad either.Denny
 
I've chrono'd several of the 300 Rem short mags an they all are running around 2850 to 2900 with a 180 grain spitzer. These fall short of the velocity of a 300 Win mag with the same bullet, but recoil feels the same.

My suggestion is to load it down a little. You can shoot 06 velocities by doing that and make it very comfortable to shoot.

Work your up to the mag loads for elk.

Keep in mind that Remington has stopped chambering rifles in this caliber and it's soon going to be obsolete like my 8mm Rem mag. Get a couple of hundred cases and reload and you can shoot it for a lifetime.
 
Thanks for the help guys..........Its a pretty hard deal to pass up but I am really having a hard time deciding what to do.
 
GHK,
I have a Model 7 LS in 300SAUM. Recoil is quite manageable (for me). Very accurate too. Killed a few deer with it and it absolutely "overkills" them...which is fine by me.

If I didn't already have a Model 7 in .308 it would be my "go to" deer gun. I'm sure it would make for quite a nice carrying elk rifle though...but I haven't been.

Since I don't use the SAUM often enough, I am re-barreling it with a 10 twist #7 Rock tube, dropping it into an A-5 stock and slapping an NXS on top. Should make for a nice long ranger with 210 VLDs @ 2800.
 
I agree with IDBob. That particular caliber is on it's way to extinction. It's similar to the extremely popular .300 WSM. My father-in-law has the .300 RSAUM and has a hard time finding ammo for it. When he does find it, it is extremely expensive. If you hand load and can get some good quantities of brass, then you'll be ok. Despite that, my f-i-l really loves his and has shot quite a few deer with it. As far as rebarreling it goes. Sorry, no experience or advice on that one. Good luck.
 
I have a 300WSM, which is very similar, maybe slightly more case capacity. I put the 300WSM recoil just a touch above a 30-06. If course it depends on the load, stock, rifle weight, type of recoil pad & clothing worn etc. Of the 2 the Win version seems to of recieved a better reception. For me it is more than I want to use for deer hunting. I could easily load mine down to a 308 level but I also have plenty of others to choose from. If you handload & don't have anything close to it, you may want to try it. If the main reason to buy is just because it's a good deal, that isn't always enough. I don't like to spend $400 to save $100. If it really tickles you, go for it. I have more than a few buys like that myself. Any kind of rebarreling or other work will chew up original savings.

Where & what do you plan to hunt with it? I'm not fond of to much recoil myself & use 308's, 243's, & a 284 Win. in most cases.
 
I have a Rem. Model 7 in that cal. and it is my goto gun for elk. Recoil is relevant, rifle total weight and the loads = ? (As Leon pointed out 30 cals kick /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif).

I don't think the cal. is going to die though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif. Remington has both the Model 700 and Model Seven in the 300 SAUM caliber listed on their current web site and in their latest catalogs. They also list the ammo in their CoreLokt and Match lines. Everyone thought the Remington 244 (6mm) and the Remington 7 mm express (Remington 280) were going to the grave yard too, but we are still shooting them.

I reload and have a trash can full of cases so I cannot attest to the current price and availability of the ammunition /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif.

I don't think re-barrelling a new sporter rifle is really very economical. Just buy the caliber u want.

If you like the rifle and it fits the purpose, I think you will be happy with the caliber. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif JMHO
 
I am very recoil sensitive and hate it but .... I shoot a 300 WSM and do NOT find the recoil that bad...Far less than a 7mm Mag or a 30-06? My rifle started out as a 300 SAUM and had a gunsmith run a 300 WSM reamer thru it very inexpensively.
 
Never shot one, but at the local Gander MTN they had a model 7 SS/Synthetic 300 SAUM for $499(New) very tempting, but at $34 for a box of ammo, and the recoil would be pretty bad I'm sure, I had to pass. Any other caliber and I would have grabbed it up.
 
A friend closed his busy gunshop last year after many years in business. Each day we would bet on which gun would be the first & last to sell. As the discounts got bigger it was interesting to watch how people reacted. The last ammo got down to 60% off. Except all of the Remington short action stuff which was the only ammo left. No one would take it not even the distributor. He ended up donating it a few weeks ago to the Rocky Mountain Elk annual dinner auction. This tells alot about those calibers considering he sold 600 guns and ammunition for calibers I've never even heard of all in ten days. About 50 boxes of short action ammo really stuck out all alone on the shelf when it was all done.
 
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