.338 Win Mag
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Originally Posted By: Winny FanIn a rifle with a well built stock that handles recoil, the 338 Win Mag is a very shootable and accurate cartridge, both over the bench and in the field.
And this isnt one of them..Bought new in the 90's less than 40 rounds down the pipe,,,It will detach your retinas.
And this isnt one of them..Bought new in the 90's less than 40 rounds down the pipe,,,It will detach your retinas.
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thewileyone13
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Centurion,
First off... why do you want/need a 338? It is a great elk round and can take anything in North America.. First off, I am not a fan of light weight Ram Line stocks on magnum rifles, Ram Line is not a quality stock anyway. I would rather have a wood stock or other heavier quality stock, then a decelerator recoil pad to take the initial whop out of it.
Yes, muzzle breaks work if you want to wear hearing protection when hunting. If you don't wear hearing protection, you will wish that you had. I call BS that a 338 wm with a Ram Line light weight stock only has as much felt recoil as a 3006. I have shot some light weight 3006's that kicked like a MULE though, so maybe that is what they were thinking.
Anyways, I would take a 7mm mag or 30 wm over a 338 any day. Better ballistics, more bullet choices and less recoil.
Good luck with you decision.
First off... why do you want/need a 338? It is a great elk round and can take anything in North America.. First off, I am not a fan of light weight Ram Line stocks on magnum rifles, Ram Line is not a quality stock anyway. I would rather have a wood stock or other heavier quality stock, then a decelerator recoil pad to take the initial whop out of it.
Yes, muzzle breaks work if you want to wear hearing protection when hunting. If you don't wear hearing protection, you will wish that you had. I call BS that a 338 wm with a Ram Line light weight stock only has as much felt recoil as a 3006. I have shot some light weight 3006's that kicked like a MULE though, so maybe that is what they were thinking.
Anyways, I would take a 7mm mag or 30 wm over a 338 any day. Better ballistics, more bullet choices and less recoil.
Good luck with you decision.
wisconsinteacher
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I have a Win Mod 70 that I love. This was the first year deer hunting with it and I have never seen a deer hit the ground harder. I use 210 Partitions with Reloader 19. I know it is over kill but enjoy reloading for it and shooting it. I did have a Leupold VXII 3x9 on it but now I have a Minox 3x9 on it. I was able to smack milk jugs at 200 yards before deer season and 1" groups at 100 off the bench. Again, I love it and will not get rid of it.
Originally Posted By: DonDOriginally Posted By: woodguru
I've got another friend here in Placerville that shoots one he loads for, he says it shoots half an inch with ease, he took an Elk with it at 800 yards.
I call BS on that. The number of shooters proficient enough to make ethical shots at 800 are very few. Highly likely the elk could move between trigger squeeze and bullet impact. Hunter's version of "the fish that got away". Don
You can call BS all you want, but it's a pretty ignorant thing to do when you know nothing of the situation, in the future you might ask particulars of a situation before making that "call", things might be different than you thought.
I never said it was an ethical shot, in fact I don't believe in taking shots like this at all. There was nothing ethical about anything to do with this shot or how he handled it afterwards.
I gave the guy crap about it on several counts as he was telling me about this, you'll love this as much as I did (sarcasm font). It was running across the face of a mountain in deep snow, Jim (the guy shooting) could see where his shots were going so he kept adjusting, got it on the fourth shot and it was the kind of shot that gives hunters a bad name. Rear spine that just crippled it and took it down. It took him two or three hours to get to it while his brother went to get a snow sled, he had to cross a canyon with a frozen creek as he'd shot it from the other side. Here's where I really copped an attitude on him, he refused to put it down from a distance once he got within a distance to where he could have made a better hit, he watched it struggling the whole time. It was still alive when he got to it. I told him had I been with him he'd not have had a choice about putting it down from a distance, meat or not.
I would not be interested in hunting with this guy at all, I wouldn't be okay with having to deal with seeing someone different ideas about what's right.
There's guys who would say "great shot, way to go", and others like me who are disgusted by it.
By the way, I saw a hunting show where a guy was making the same sort of shot where an Elk was running across a snowy face at about 700 yards and you could easily see the geyser of snow there the shots were hitting, it definitely helps with getting the lead right after a few shots.
I've got another friend here in Placerville that shoots one he loads for, he says it shoots half an inch with ease, he took an Elk with it at 800 yards.
I call BS on that. The number of shooters proficient enough to make ethical shots at 800 are very few. Highly likely the elk could move between trigger squeeze and bullet impact. Hunter's version of "the fish that got away". Don
You can call BS all you want, but it's a pretty ignorant thing to do when you know nothing of the situation, in the future you might ask particulars of a situation before making that "call", things might be different than you thought.
I never said it was an ethical shot, in fact I don't believe in taking shots like this at all. There was nothing ethical about anything to do with this shot or how he handled it afterwards.
I gave the guy crap about it on several counts as he was telling me about this, you'll love this as much as I did (sarcasm font). It was running across the face of a mountain in deep snow, Jim (the guy shooting) could see where his shots were going so he kept adjusting, got it on the fourth shot and it was the kind of shot that gives hunters a bad name. Rear spine that just crippled it and took it down. It took him two or three hours to get to it while his brother went to get a snow sled, he had to cross a canyon with a frozen creek as he'd shot it from the other side. Here's where I really copped an attitude on him, he refused to put it down from a distance once he got within a distance to where he could have made a better hit, he watched it struggling the whole time. It was still alive when he got to it. I told him had I been with him he'd not have had a choice about putting it down from a distance, meat or not.
I would not be interested in hunting with this guy at all, I wouldn't be okay with having to deal with seeing someone different ideas about what's right.
There's guys who would say "great shot, way to go", and others like me who are disgusted by it.
By the way, I saw a hunting show where a guy was making the same sort of shot where an Elk was running across a snowy face at about 700 yards and you could easily see the geyser of snow there the shots were hitting, it definitely helps with getting the lead right after a few shots.
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Originally Posted By: BeluebowOriginally Posted By: Winny FanIn a rifle with a well built stock that handles recoil, the 338 Win Mag is a very shootable and accurate cartridge, both over the bench and in the field.
And this isnt one of them..Bought new in the 90's less than 40 rounds down the pipe,,,It will detach your retinas.
LMAO, that just looks like a retina detaching machine.
And this isnt one of them..Bought new in the 90's less than 40 rounds down the pipe,,,It will detach your retinas.
LMAO, that just looks like a retina detaching machine.
Originally Posted By: Frank44Kills on one end, and cripples on thew other. I shot a model 70 for two years in Alaska with reduced loads. When I moved south I sold it after one shot off the bench with summer clothe on. That was 45 years ago. I now shoot 30-06 and 308. With premium bullets they have never let me down on elk, and moose out to 300 yards. I don,t shoot unless it is a sure thing. Never had to follow a blood trail.
Frank
Ya'll are making me feel better that it wasn't just me being a light weight.
I've had a few people tell me that 338 is one of the nastier kicking rounds, that they've had other big calibers that were not nearly as bad. My late brother in law used a .300 mag for Moose and Elk. Bottom line is that a 30-06 or .308 will do the job with reasonable distances, heck a .270 will using the right bullet.
Frank
Ya'll are making me feel better that it wasn't just me being a light weight.
I've had a few people tell me that 338 is one of the nastier kicking rounds, that they've had other big calibers that were not nearly as bad. My late brother in law used a .300 mag for Moose and Elk. Bottom line is that a 30-06 or .308 will do the job with reasonable distances, heck a .270 will using the right bullet.
Originally Posted By: 6mm06
Centurion,
I'm kind-of like filmit in that I tend to have an emotional attachment to the .338 Win. Mag. Seems I've always had a love affair with large caliber guns, not that I need them per se, but I just like them. Owning a large caliber rifle is one thing, using it is another. I don't have grizzlies running about where I live, nor elk in a huntable population. What's the fun if you can't put it to some use, and who's to say you can't use one to deer hunt.
I've owned three .338 Win Mags. My first was a model 70 Winchester XTR, a really fine looking rifle, but it just wouldn't shoot well. I never could get accuracy from that rifle. I had it recrowned, free floated and tried a variety of loads to no avail. I purchased the rifle in hopes of one day going to Alaska. Many years later that day finally came, but I left the model 70 at home since I was not confident in it's accuracy.
Then I had a Remington 700 stainless with the composite stock. Again, accuracy was not what I was looking for, despite lots of judicious handloading.
In one final effort to own a .338 Win. Mag. that would shoot the way I thought one ought to, I purchased a new Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, which is guaranteed to shoot under an inch. This rifle has proved worthy of owning.
The suggested load (target included from the factory) was with Federal Power Shok 225 gr. Soft Points.
The problem was, when I purchased the rifle, the ammo had been discontinued. I managed to find one
box and got it at $55.00. Ouch, that hurt since I'm used to reloading, but I wanted to try it to see if I
could get good accuracy as suggested by the factory. The ammo shot really well. I can't seem to find
a target of it, but I do have the load data.
However, I wanted to find a good load with a premium bullet, so I tried the Barnes TSX 210 gr.
It shoots pretty darn good. I shot 2-shot groups (some will question that) at 100 yards, and
the average of the three groups was .77, so not bad and plenty acceptable for the type of
game a .338 would be used for.
I decided to take the rifle deer hunting and see how the Barnes might perform, hoping it would
not blow gaping holes in the off side. Luck was with me and I took a spike buck at about 75 yards,
broadside and dropped it on the spot. That's the only game I have taken with the rifle.
The bullet showed very little sign of an entrance, and the exit was not bad at all. Now this is only
one deer, and I'm not sure if this performance will be the norm or not. The off-side damage is less
than you would expect from a 30-06 or even a 270.
Here is a photo of the exit wound. The photo was cleaned up (blood removed) to show the actual exit.
The exit wound was not touched.
As you can see, it is difficult to see the entrance wound.
As to recoil, the .338 Win. Mag is a real thumper. I have actually found that my son's CZ .375 H&H
has less felt-recoil than any of the .338 Win. Mags I have owned.
I've never got what I consider really good accuracy from a .338 Win. Mag.
Just for comparison, here's my son's CZ .375 H&H and a target shot with factory loads. These are
two, 2-shot groups while sighting in the rifle. I find the .375 shoots better than any of the .338 Win.
Mags I have owned.
The .338 Win. Mag. is one heck of a hard-hitter, and has earned a reputation in
Alaska and in Africa. It's a fine elk cartridge from what I have read. I would love
an opportunity to give it try on elk one day.
While maybe my post seems to imply the .338 Win. Mag is not accurate, actually
it's plenty accurate enough for it's intended purpose. I just tend to knit-pick and
am too used to varmint accuracy perhaps.
Speaking of varmint accuracy, just for the fun of it, I suggested that my son take
his .375 H&H with us on a groundhog hunt. He did and took the first shot of the
evening at one slightly over 100 yards. The groundhog lost his mind!
Good luck.
Is that the son in the picture that has the .375?
Heck, get him a .243 instead of a .22 to practice with, he might say hey dad, I'm gonna use the 243 instead, it's fine for deer.
Those Barnes bullets if I'm not mistaken are designed for dangerous big game, like Cape Buffalo, where a tough skin and two feet of flesh gives them a chance to open up a bit. They can hit a bone and smash through it and still do the job.
Nice pics.
Centurion,
I'm kind-of like filmit in that I tend to have an emotional attachment to the .338 Win. Mag. Seems I've always had a love affair with large caliber guns, not that I need them per se, but I just like them. Owning a large caliber rifle is one thing, using it is another. I don't have grizzlies running about where I live, nor elk in a huntable population. What's the fun if you can't put it to some use, and who's to say you can't use one to deer hunt.
I've owned three .338 Win Mags. My first was a model 70 Winchester XTR, a really fine looking rifle, but it just wouldn't shoot well. I never could get accuracy from that rifle. I had it recrowned, free floated and tried a variety of loads to no avail. I purchased the rifle in hopes of one day going to Alaska. Many years later that day finally came, but I left the model 70 at home since I was not confident in it's accuracy.
Then I had a Remington 700 stainless with the composite stock. Again, accuracy was not what I was looking for, despite lots of judicious handloading.
In one final effort to own a .338 Win. Mag. that would shoot the way I thought one ought to, I purchased a new Weatherby Vanguard Sub MOA, which is guaranteed to shoot under an inch. This rifle has proved worthy of owning.
The suggested load (target included from the factory) was with Federal Power Shok 225 gr. Soft Points.
The problem was, when I purchased the rifle, the ammo had been discontinued. I managed to find one
box and got it at $55.00. Ouch, that hurt since I'm used to reloading, but I wanted to try it to see if I
could get good accuracy as suggested by the factory. The ammo shot really well. I can't seem to find
a target of it, but I do have the load data.
However, I wanted to find a good load with a premium bullet, so I tried the Barnes TSX 210 gr.
It shoots pretty darn good. I shot 2-shot groups (some will question that) at 100 yards, and
the average of the three groups was .77, so not bad and plenty acceptable for the type of
game a .338 would be used for.
I decided to take the rifle deer hunting and see how the Barnes might perform, hoping it would
not blow gaping holes in the off side. Luck was with me and I took a spike buck at about 75 yards,
broadside and dropped it on the spot. That's the only game I have taken with the rifle.
The bullet showed very little sign of an entrance, and the exit was not bad at all. Now this is only
one deer, and I'm not sure if this performance will be the norm or not. The off-side damage is less
than you would expect from a 30-06 or even a 270.
Here is a photo of the exit wound. The photo was cleaned up (blood removed) to show the actual exit.
The exit wound was not touched.
As you can see, it is difficult to see the entrance wound.
As to recoil, the .338 Win. Mag is a real thumper. I have actually found that my son's CZ .375 H&H
has less felt-recoil than any of the .338 Win. Mags I have owned.
I've never got what I consider really good accuracy from a .338 Win. Mag.
Just for comparison, here's my son's CZ .375 H&H and a target shot with factory loads. These are
two, 2-shot groups while sighting in the rifle. I find the .375 shoots better than any of the .338 Win.
Mags I have owned.
The .338 Win. Mag. is one heck of a hard-hitter, and has earned a reputation in
Alaska and in Africa. It's a fine elk cartridge from what I have read. I would love
an opportunity to give it try on elk one day.
While maybe my post seems to imply the .338 Win. Mag is not accurate, actually
it's plenty accurate enough for it's intended purpose. I just tend to knit-pick and
am too used to varmint accuracy perhaps.
Speaking of varmint accuracy, just for the fun of it, I suggested that my son take
his .375 H&H with us on a groundhog hunt. He did and took the first shot of the
evening at one slightly over 100 yards. The groundhog lost his mind!
Good luck.
Is that the son in the picture that has the .375?
Heck, get him a .243 instead of a .22 to practice with, he might say hey dad, I'm gonna use the 243 instead, it's fine for deer.
Those Barnes bullets if I'm not mistaken are designed for dangerous big game, like Cape Buffalo, where a tough skin and two feet of flesh gives them a chance to open up a bit. They can hit a bone and smash through it and still do the job.
Nice pics.
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So how does the recoil of something like a .416 compare? I've shot .300 H&H and .375 H&H, the .300 wasn't bad, and the .375 didn't seem to be nearly as bad as the Sako .338 mag.
It would be interesting to see a compilation of felt recoil from cartridge to cartridge, but it seems that there are substantial differences from rifle to rifle.
It would be interesting to see a compilation of felt recoil from cartridge to cartridge, but it seems that there are substantial differences from rifle to rifle.
6mm06
Well-known member
Woodguru,
To answer your questions, No, he is a different son. The largest rifle he has shot to date is my 223 AR. The .243 is a good starter gun for deer, but my now 8 year old needs more practice with a 22 and .223 before graduating up to a .243. My other son is 30, and handles the .375 H&H well.
As to the Barnes TSX, they are great bullets in my experience. I shoot them in a 7mm STW and the .338 Win. Mag. My son shoots them in a .300 Rem Ultra Mag. They penetrate into tomorrow. Results vary on deer / antelope size game with the 140 gr. out of the 7mm STW. If not hit right, they can leave some nasty exit wounds, but the STW is pushing the bullet pretty fast. I love that caliber even if it is more than needed. I've killed 5 antleope with a 25-06, and I know very well that smaller rounds kill deer sized game just fine, but the 7mm STW is so flat shooting that 400 yard shots are basically a done deal. Besides that, I just like shooting larger calibers. The game we have shot with the Barnes bullets have dropped on the spot except for a couple, and they only went maybe 25 yards before dropping.
As mentioned previously, a stock has a lot to do with felt recoil. Weatherby stocks by design are probably some of the better ones in that department, providing less felt-recoil. My Sub MOA Vanguard has much less felt recoil than the other two .338s I had.
Get the rifle, lose the stupid plastic stock and put that nice stick of wood on it.
You can run up to 300 grain bullets in the .338, and load them down as well. I don't think you'd be doing any cross-canyon shooting in the Peoples Republic. It would be nice. With sling and scope (should you decide to go that route), a rifle weighed up at 9 pounds or so would be pleasant to fire.
This advice is coming from someone with a .338 A-Square, two .375 Weatherby's and a .500 A-Square. I load them up and down depending on what I want to do. I like large rifles with wood stocks.
You can run up to 300 grain bullets in the .338, and load them down as well. I don't think you'd be doing any cross-canyon shooting in the Peoples Republic. It would be nice. With sling and scope (should you decide to go that route), a rifle weighed up at 9 pounds or so would be pleasant to fire.
This advice is coming from someone with a .338 A-Square, two .375 Weatherby's and a .500 A-Square. I load them up and down depending on what I want to do. I like large rifles with wood stocks.
Centurion
New member
Originally Posted By: thewileyone13Centurion,
First off... why do you want/need a 338? It is a great elk round and can take anything in North America.. First off, I am not a fan of light weight Ram Line stocks on magnum rifles, Ram Line is not a quality stock anyway. I would rather have a wood stock or other heavier quality stock, then a decelerator recoil pad to take the initial whop out of it.
Wiley--
I don't need one, I just want one. A good friend of mine bought a .338 Lapua last year, too, but he just wanted it. He didn't need it.
I take my friend at his word on the rifle. He's as honest as they come, and he has done a ton of hunting all over Alaska since the 70s, and also out west. He is planning a hunt in Idaho this year with a retired Alaskan State Trooper he has gone on many hunting trips with. He has a bunch of rifles, but says he just likes his Sako Finbear 30.06 the best, and has taken a lot of moose, elk and other animals with it. He has peep sights on all of his rifles, just because that is his preference. He has only one scope, a Weaver K6 he uses when he is "working up loads", in his words. Rich is a real tough guy, so maybe the recoil doesn't bother him much because of that.
I actually really have wanted a .260 rifle for a long time, but didn't have the money to buy one yet. Now when I am going to be able to buy a long range rifle, the ammo for .260 is almost non-existent. I would hate to buy a .260 and not be able to shoot it for lack of ammo. .338 Win Mag ammo seems to be everywhere, at least at this time, when a lot of calibers have been bought up. I can take a little beating I guess, but hopefully it won't be all that bad. It looks like quite a few people on the forum own rifles in .338 and love them, so there is a pretty good chance I will do the same. Rich has been trying to get me to come out to Montana where he lives now and hunt with him. The .338 Win Mag should take care of anything out there if I get to go.
First off... why do you want/need a 338? It is a great elk round and can take anything in North America.. First off, I am not a fan of light weight Ram Line stocks on magnum rifles, Ram Line is not a quality stock anyway. I would rather have a wood stock or other heavier quality stock, then a decelerator recoil pad to take the initial whop out of it.
Wiley--
I don't need one, I just want one. A good friend of mine bought a .338 Lapua last year, too, but he just wanted it. He didn't need it.
I take my friend at his word on the rifle. He's as honest as they come, and he has done a ton of hunting all over Alaska since the 70s, and also out west. He is planning a hunt in Idaho this year with a retired Alaskan State Trooper he has gone on many hunting trips with. He has a bunch of rifles, but says he just likes his Sako Finbear 30.06 the best, and has taken a lot of moose, elk and other animals with it. He has peep sights on all of his rifles, just because that is his preference. He has only one scope, a Weaver K6 he uses when he is "working up loads", in his words. Rich is a real tough guy, so maybe the recoil doesn't bother him much because of that.
I actually really have wanted a .260 rifle for a long time, but didn't have the money to buy one yet. Now when I am going to be able to buy a long range rifle, the ammo for .260 is almost non-existent. I would hate to buy a .260 and not be able to shoot it for lack of ammo. .338 Win Mag ammo seems to be everywhere, at least at this time, when a lot of calibers have been bought up. I can take a little beating I guess, but hopefully it won't be all that bad. It looks like quite a few people on the forum own rifles in .338 and love them, so there is a pretty good chance I will do the same. Rich has been trying to get me to come out to Montana where he lives now and hunt with him. The .338 Win Mag should take care of anything out there if I get to go.
Centurion
New member
Nitroman--
I'll have to see if Rich still has that wooden stock. If he does I'll ask him to send it with the rifle. It looks to be in good shape from the pics. I'm looking forward to having a big rifle, having never had one with that much knock down power. It will be fun to be shooting at long distances at targets, too. I have a friend who has a lot of coyotes where I could shoot at 500 yards on his farm from a shooting bench on his back porch, too. Oh, and I hope to leave the People's Republic sometime this year, but to where I'm not sure. There's plenty of open land out their waiting for me.
I'll have to see if Rich still has that wooden stock. If he does I'll ask him to send it with the rifle. It looks to be in good shape from the pics. I'm looking forward to having a big rifle, having never had one with that much knock down power. It will be fun to be shooting at long distances at targets, too. I have a friend who has a lot of coyotes where I could shoot at 500 yards on his farm from a shooting bench on his back porch, too. Oh, and I hope to leave the People's Republic sometime this year, but to where I'm not sure. There's plenty of open land out their waiting for me.
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6mm06
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Originally Posted By: thewileyone13
First off... why do you want/need a 338?
Originally Posted By: Centurion
I don't need one, I just want one. A good friend of mine bought a .338 Lapua last year, too, but he just wanted it. He didn't need it.
Right on Centurion. I've got several guns I don't "need," some I rarely use, but I like them, enjoy owning them and just want them. I don't need a .338 either, but I've not been without one for almost 30 years. Heck, I don't "need" a 7mm STW, but I sure do enjoy dropping long-range Wyoming antelope with it. My 25-06 would serve me well for antelope, but I enjoy the STW. It drops antelope on the spot. That's what life is all about, having things "your" way.
Get your rifle and enjoy it. Load it with proper bullets and take it deer hunting if you want. Have a great time with it. What floats your boat may not float someone else's and vice versa
Be prepared to be laughed at by some who want to criticize you for using such a rifle on deer. Usually these kind of people seem to be somewhat narrow minded and can't seem to think out of the box. As for me, I can care less what others think. I enjoy what I do.
Keep us posted about your new toy, how it shoots and what you do about a stock.
Just as an example of larger caliber use with Barnes bulles, here's a clip I've posted before that you may have seen. This is a Wyoming hunt in 2010. The first antelope shot was a buck at 360 yards, dropped by my son with his Remington 700 .300 Rem Ultra Mag. He used a 168 gr. Barnes TSX. The Mule deer I took with my STW at about 138 yards (not far) with the 140 gr. TSX. The antelope doe shot on video was taken by my son with a .257 Arnold Magnum (.264 Win. Mag. necked down to 25 caliber). The bullet used was a 100 gr. Sierra SP at about 100 yards. As a comparison, notice the difference in the "pop" when the bullets hit it's target.
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Bloodhound
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I have a Ruger 77 with a Douglas barrel...it is in .338 Win Mag...its my elk gun...and it is a great shooter...it packs an old Denver Redfield 3-9x40 scope. Got it from a friend of a friend, it came with a muzzle break but the standard Factory Red Ruger butt pad,and it is the standard by which I judge other hunting rifles...big heavy and accurate...only issue is that it greatly prefers heavy bullets...225s shoot well...but the 250s are spooky accurate cloverleafs at 100 yards...reminds me I need to reload some more .338.
I have only killed Mule Deer bucks and one cow elk...all were clean quick kills ranging from 100 yards to about 270 yards. I practice out to 300 meters at the gun club, so that is my self imposed limit.
I have only killed Mule Deer bucks and one cow elk...all were clean quick kills ranging from 100 yards to about 270 yards. I practice out to 300 meters at the gun club, so that is my self imposed limit.
willy1947
Active member
Originally Posted By: BloodhoundI have a Ruger 77 with a Douglas barrel...it is in .338 Win Mag...its my elk gun...and it is a great shooter...it packs an old Denver Redfield 3-9x40 scope. Got it from a friend of a friend, it came with a muzzle break but the standard Factory Red Ruger butt pad,and it is the standard by which I judge other hunting rifles...big heavy and accurate...only issue is that it greatly prefers heavy bullets...225s shoot well...but the 250s are spooky accurate cloverleafs at 100 yards...reminds me I need to reload some more .338.
I have only killed Mule Deer bucks and one cow elk...all were clean quick kills ranging from 100 yards to about 270 yards. I practice out to 300 meters at the gun club, so that is my self imposed limit.
+1 Mine has a Douglas also. It is going to leave home for a new trigger and a break
I have only killed Mule Deer bucks and one cow elk...all were clean quick kills ranging from 100 yards to about 270 yards. I practice out to 300 meters at the gun club, so that is my self imposed limit.
+1 Mine has a Douglas also. It is going to leave home for a new trigger and a break
Originally Posted By: CenturionNitroman--
I'll have to see if Rich still has that wooden stock. If he does I'll ask him to send it with the rifle. It looks to be in good shape from the pics. I'm looking forward to having a big rifle, having never had one with that much knock down power. It will be fun to be shooting at long distances at targets, too. I have a friend who has a lot of coyotes where I could shoot at 500 yards on his farm from a shooting bench on his back porch, too. Oh, and I hope to leave the People's Republic sometime this year, but to where I'm not sure. There's plenty of open land out their waiting for me.
Good on you, plenty of space left for freedom lovers.
Once you have the wood stock (if available), take it to someone who knows how to fit stocks and have it lengthened or shorted to fit you.
Remember loading lightly at first and work up. Use cast lead bullets of any weight you desire and slowly work up to some 300-350 grainers going slow. Nice push. You'll get there.
Check out the Berger bullets for your long range fun.
I'll have to see if Rich still has that wooden stock. If he does I'll ask him to send it with the rifle. It looks to be in good shape from the pics. I'm looking forward to having a big rifle, having never had one with that much knock down power. It will be fun to be shooting at long distances at targets, too. I have a friend who has a lot of coyotes where I could shoot at 500 yards on his farm from a shooting bench on his back porch, too. Oh, and I hope to leave the People's Republic sometime this year, but to where I'm not sure. There's plenty of open land out their waiting for me.
Good on you, plenty of space left for freedom lovers.
Once you have the wood stock (if available), take it to someone who knows how to fit stocks and have it lengthened or shorted to fit you.
Remember loading lightly at first and work up. Use cast lead bullets of any weight you desire and slowly work up to some 300-350 grainers going slow. Nice push. You'll get there.
Check out the Berger bullets for your long range fun.