44 Magnum

Texgun

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I decided that I wanted to take a deer next season with a hand gun. I bought a Ruger Super Black Hawk with a 7 1/2" barrel.I have fired about 100 rounds of 180 grain factory ammo and feel comfortable shooting the gun. The groups are larger than I would like at 50 yards and I think it may be wise to use a heavier load for hunting deer.
Does any one have an idea what factory load this revolver might like best?
 
I have a older Red Hawk and mine loves 240 grain jacketed hollow points. Seems to shoot all the different factory ammo well. I have taken about a half dozen deer with this gun over the years. Most fairly close shots. The furthest about 75 yards. The 44 loses velocity pretty rapidly but will perform out to that range. All 1 shot kills and most have gone down inside of 20 yards. I have also owned several Black Hawks and have enjoyed them as well. Enjoy the Black Hawk.
 
Guns & Ammo (current issue) has a pretty good article about handgun hunting. One of the interresting things pointed out is the importance of range restriction especially on iron sighted handguns. Since the iron sights can completely obscure the vitals of a deer at 100 yards, it can make precise shot placement tricky.

Ballistically a 240 grain .44 mag bullet will have no problem taking a deer. Even the 180 grain will work. Just use a properly constructed bullet. Shoot what you are most comfortable with. The 240 grain bullets will generate more recoil than the 180s.

As with all other game, bullet placement is key. It doesn't matter if you have too much gun, a poorly placed shot is going to loose game. An accurate 180 grain to the vitals will prove more effective than a 240 grain launched into the gut.

For getting a lot of practice in and still keeping your teeth in your head, I'd recommend shooting some very mild loads. This will get you used to the feel without developing bad habits induced from the recoil. I've been doing a lot of practicing with my .44 shooting 240 grain HCL bullets over (IIRC) 6.x grains of red dot. This gives a felt recoil of about that of a .38 special. These are super cheap rounds to reload. The brass lasts for about forever if you don't over crimp, bullets run around $30/500, and at 6-7 grains a charge, one pound of powder lasts a while.

If you don't reload, look for some CAS (Cowboy Action) loads. These are pretty much the same loading, although they can be expensive.

Lead fouling can be pretty bad, however. What I do to make cleanup a lot easier is to fire a cylinder of jacketed rounds at the end of a session while the barrel is still warm from the naked lead loads. This helps to clean out a lot of the lead deposits.

As for what factory load shoots best, that is anybody's guess as each gun shoots different. Try some various loads out and see which one(s) your firearm prefers. All that shooting makes for good practice too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I have a Blackhawk and a Ruger carbine in .44 mag. I really love those guns. Haven't gotten any "big" game with the pistol yet, but I'm looking forward to it. A javalina at 10' would be fun.
 
Originally posted by Locohead:
[qb]Hey! I can hit a paper plate at 5 yards!!!!!![/qb]
Congrats Loco! That reminds me of when I first put the scope (Leupold M8 4x EER) on my Ruger SBH .44 mag. I couldn't hit diddly with it.

One of the things that really threw me for a loop with the scope was having to hold the gun slightly lower since the sight axis of the scope sits higher than that of the iron sights. In addition, without a shooting support a scope does nothing but magnify your movements. Very frustrating indeed. But I'm getting the hang of it, slowly but surely.

But the paper plate is a good litmus test on shooting skills. If you can reliably hit a paper plate at 100 yards with iron sights, I wouldn't hesitate to establish that as a max range. I went the scope route because my eyesight sucks and I want to ensure the most humane shot I can. I look forward to bringing it out on the stands with me someday.
 
lol I know it's a little late so I don't expect a reply, but Bronco, how do you like that M8 4x? I just put one on my 15" Encore in .270 win and it is a really nice scope. A tad touchy for eye relief I thought, but I imagine they all are. Sure is tough getting used to wobbling around so much though. Nothing like iron sights! It's a great scope though and makes me pretty accurate at 100 yards offhand. Just wondering what you thought of it.

Matt
 
Texgun, I have a model 29 Smith & Wesson I used several times in the woods while hunting whitetail deer. I always used the 240 grain Sierra hollow cavity bullet back then, along with 2400 Powder, it is NOT the cleanest but is very
accurate out to 60 yards.

None of those bucks were ever taken further than 42 yards and the bullet made chop suey out of their lungs. Never got an exit on broadside shots either with those bullets. They sure did mushroom out almost twice their diameter though.
 
Originally posted by varmint101:
[qb]lol I know it's a little late so I don't expect a reply, but Bronco, how do you like that M8 4x? I just put one on my 15" Encore in .270 win and it is a really nice scope. A tad touchy for eye relief I thought, but I imagine they all are. Sure is tough getting used to wobbling around so much though. Nothing like iron sights! It's a great scope though and makes me pretty accurate at 100 yards offhand. Just wondering what you thought of it.

Matt[/qb]
It's a tough scope to get used to, that's for certain. They eye relief is just fine for me when holding in a typical handgun position, but what bugs me, is that if your eyeball is not pefectly inline with the scope tube, you get nothing but black.

Field of view sucks with that long eye relief and at targets at typical sub-100 yard handgun range, but I've been shooting it with both eyes open so that really helps speed me on target.

Iron sights are nice in that they don't show all the movement that a scope does (even though the movement is still occouring) and offer much faster target aquisition. In my opinion shooting sticks are pretty much a necessity for handguns shooting at the 50 yard mark and beyond, or closer depending on how small the critters are being targeted.
 
i gotta 7.5 sbh and so far 21 gr of lilgun puts a 270 gdsp in 1.25" at 16 yds or 21 gr of 2400 with 240 xtp for same group at same yardage.
 
If you get a chance you might try a red dot scope to help stretch out the sight picture and accuracy to at least 100 yards. I found that a ProPoint 5 Red Dot with the changeable dot size was very accurate on top of my Colt Anaconda.
The tube on this sight is almost as big as the pistols cylinder. I'm not sure they still make the Tasco but some company is probably making something like it.
 
Having shot several .44 Mag Revolvers over the years I am going to go out on a limb and suggest you try some Federal 240gr. JHP's in a Factory Load. In all of the Handguns I have tried them in they have been pleasantly accurate. If Handloading is an option I have had good luck with the BULK Remington Semi-Jacketed Hollow Points over a healthy charge of Winchester W-296 (charge weight depending on the guns perference).

As per the scope question, learning to shoot a Handgun Scope with a 4x Scope is not the easiest thing to do. With the Leupold EER Handgun Scopes as an example, the 4x version has a 11 Foot Field of View at 100 Yards, while their 2x offering has a 21 Foot Field of View at 100 Yards. In addition the Exit Pupil is larger on the 2x version which in turn allows for easier target aquisition.

My personal preference is for a variable handgun scope. In my opinion this allows for learning at the lower magnifications, but yet you can crank it up while shooting from a solid rest for Load Testing and Confidence building. In addition as you get accustomed to using a Handgun Scope the higher magnifications will become easier to use.

I happen to prefer the 2x7x32mm Burris LER Handgun Scope. This one offers a 21 Foot Field of View at 2x (the largest Field of View of any Variable Handgun Scope made), with very forgiving Eye Relief. Yes as the magnification increases the Eye Relief decreases to a degree. With the 2x7x32mm Burris LER Handgun Scope I can let the situation dictate what magnification my scope is set on.

Good luck with the Ruger, they really are a great Handgun.

Larry
 
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