I use 45.5 gr of Varget, with Nosler 55 gr bullets, norma brass, and WLR primers. These are on the hot side (so be careful), but they are scratching at the door of 4000 fps, and they shoot clover leaves all day long. I could probably get better groups if I really tried, but heck I'm not shooting competition, I'm shooting for dead coyotes. And believe me, they absolutely do a number on a coyote. My buddy and I both shoot the exact same load, and they shoot amazing out of both rifles.