5mm remington?

Originally Posted By: marcoSorry BCB but a 40gr. bullet going at over 2,100fps has more energy thatn a 38gr. 5mm bullet going the same velocity! The RWS ammo I tested went 2,150fps. at 10ft. had to go back and check my records. Ive chronoed a bunch of the old 5mm ammo and never and I mean never got close to factroy spec vel. of 2,105! Muzzle energy for the RWS ammo is 391.6! And the RWS 40gr. bullet is .020 largerin dia than the 5mm and the RWS is a true jacketed bullet. You need to get your facts right story teller! ~Marco

Sorry back at ya', marco.... Maybe I should have originally said in terms of currently available 22 Mag ammo.

If you'll notice I never stated anything about shooting the RF version of the 5MM cartridge. I had one years ago (@1970) when they first came out and shot RF ammo then, and I never worried about who and what back then.

If you'll check back about what I originally said above, in the current rifle I own I shoot nothing but factory 32 grain jacketed 20 caliber bullets or several different light weight 20 caliber hand swaged HP bullets that I have made for myself and shoot in a Steve Schroeder CF conversion..

The only RF ammo shot in this rifle was a few original Remington shells a few years back and a few of the original new Centurian stuff about a year ago to compare velocities with CF ammo. Both trail the CF version considerably in velocity.... And in the CF version you have some excellent powder choices and much improved bullets designed originally for CF use.

Just an FYI: the Schroeder CF conversion makes it about a five minute job to switch from CF to RF or vice versa.

I know with the CF version I can beat anything you're currently shooting in the 22 Mag in velocity and energy; even your 20 year old ammo that you maybe still have some of that is no longer available to other folks.. Then you will be closer if your old facts are valid, but not even then.

If you really want to enjoy the 5MM capabilities, get a CF conversion... In the interim, don't be so quick in jumping on your bandwagon and making "story teller" accusations..

Sorry I wasn't more precise in my original statement.... I just never thought to consider RF ammo that has not been available to folks for 20 years in my original statement as maybe swaying the table in favor of the 22 Mag.

-BCB
 
The old RWS is still out there you just have to know what to look for! I'll sell you a box! Theres more of the old RWS ammo out there then there is the old Remington 5mm ammo that was discontinued in 1983. ~Marco
 
Originally Posted By: marcoThe old RWS is still out there you just have to know what to look for! I'll sell you a box! Theres more of the old RWS ammo out there then there is the old Remington 5mm ammo that was discontinued in 1983. ~Marco

I'll let you keep it all since its scarce and I have entirely no interest... And now you're guessing on availability of both .... There are some pretty good stashes of 5MM still out there, too... But as I stated, the RF version of either one is not a big blip on my radar screen.

I've never been a 22 mag fan simply because there are so many small case CF options available in 17 and 20 caliber; even in 22 caliber, that make it seem anemic by comparison....

I bought the 591 rifle and the Schroder conversion to play with hand swaged 20 caliber bullets at lower 20 caliber velocities. I also own several small cased CF 20 caliber rifles that make the 5MM look anemic, too. And hand loaded ammo is a lot cheaper to shoot and gives better performance.

Enjoy your RF's...

-BCB
 
Entirely no interest? Not a big blip on your radar screen?! Then why did you get in on this topic? Enlighten us O great one. ~Marco
 
Originally Posted By: marcoEntirely no interest? Not a big blip on your radar screen?! Then why did you get in on this topic? Enlighten us O great one. ~Marco

marco:

As I've just been informed by PM and now can see for myself, you can be a real PITA with your name calling and innuendos... Are you feeling insecure for some reason or is this normal for you....?

I responded simply because I have the CF version of the 5MM... Remember...? And in the future I'll continue to post where I want to....OK?

Get a grip....

-BCB
 
Originally Posted By: Quarter RoundWhat powders are you using? If you have any starter loads you care to share please PM me.

Here's a couple of links to get you started. The first link has some Lil Gun data, IIRC.

http://www.jesseshunting.com/articles/guns/category16/53.html

http://www.varminter.com/particles/5mmcraig.html

Also, if you go to Saubier.com and look around you'll find some additional load data and a lot of discussion about the 5MM CF round.

I started using ~5 grains of WW296 and some old Berger 36 grain bullets back in 2000 - very accurate and bettered 5MM RF ballistics in my rifle - but I found Lil Gun offered considerably more velocity. Lil Gun is all I use today.

HTH - BCB
 
Originally Posted By: Quarter RoundThanks for the info BCB. Using Lil Gun, but always like to check around for better loads.

Lil Gun seems to be a very good match for the 5MM CF round. It gives me an excellent velocity increase over the 5MM RF ammo, and the better 20 caliber bullets are a bonus for loading the CF version.

JMO - BCB
 
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