6.5-284 for Grizzly?

Originally Posted By: pcammoI guess that I am fortunate enough to have been able to hunt some pretty big bears. To be quite honest, I never felt undergunned with a .270 Winchester or .30-06 (or even a bow). I have also never shot one three times. I have taken one black bear at 360 yards back when I was a youngster; green he was 6'1".
John pcammo , good for you . A good hunter will most often need only one shot to kill game.
 
It took my partner 5 shots from a 30-40 Krag to save my butt from a Kodiak attack on the ranch. Every one was a mortal shot, and he didn't slow down till the last shot went through his mouth and spined him.

I might shoot a griz with a rifle from a good distance, but there wouldn't have been any 400 yd shots in the brush on our ranch , and from that day on we carried 12 gauges loaded with 1 1/2 oz slugs. We never again had any problem stopping one.
 
I'm in the short range club when it comes to any dangerous game.IMO 100yds max.I also want something that hits with authority and makes big holes.That would be a .338 Win Mag minimum.
 
The 6.5-284 in the right rifle is an extremely capable accurate long distance round and with todays advancements in bullets it is capable of efficiently taking game that we would never have thought possible just a few years ago.

Put a 140gr TSX thru the lungs/heart of anything in North America and it is going to die if you can do your part it will do its part.

With that said it would definitely not be my first choice when I hunt grizzly or I'm hunting in grizzly country I carry a 300RUM loaded with 200gr A-Frames @ 3200fps or my 375RUM loaded with 260gr Accubonds @ 3020fps, 300gr A-Frames @ 2775fps and when I have the rifle set up for bear defense 350gr TSX @ 2450fps...

and yes I have shot grizzlies...
 
If its not cooked after you shoot it isnt big enough right.(enter sarcasm here) hahahahah. The bear died didnt it? The caliber must have worked.
 
Originally Posted By: MPFDInuits often take Polar bears with .243's and 25-06's. They absolutely want the best pelts possible. They would think of someone hunting bear with a 375 H&H the same way guys that come on here get talked out of coyote hunting with a 30-06... While I think 400 yards was way to long of distance, I think his rifle was plenty. If it had been an eskimo they would have only taken one shot and tracked the bear till it died, as white bear pelts are worth alot of money. I'm sure the 400 yard shot was a stunt, and one bullet at a decent range would have killed it, they probably wanted to see it drop on camera. I know your just the messenger so this isn't towards you, They need to learn a quick kill, kinda like when it turns the other way and the bear wins.They wouldn't want papa out there screaming for hours.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr. OutdoorsIf its not cooked after you shoot it isnt big enough right.(enter sarcasm here) hahahahah. The bear died didnt it? The caliber must have worked.
So what you are saying is any caliber than can kill a grizzly is an adequate caliber for a grizzly bear hunt?
So a 223 will most likely kill a grizzly if you hit it right ((between the eyes)...at a right angle)
Would you use a 223 on a grizzly hunt?
I mean, eventually, if the bear dies, the caliber must have worked....right?
I'm not sure I understand your logic.
Do you believe in a minimum caliber range for any specific type of animal?
Something adequate for the job?
Just curious.
 
Originally Posted By: sharkathmiI just watched a show on TV where the guy shot an alsakan grizzly at 400 yards with a 6.5-284.
He went on to say he was shooting 140gr bullets.
I took three shots to put the bear on the ground.

Now, I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this.
I don't have a 6.5-284 but it appears to be a bit light to me.
Add that with the velocity (velocity loss) of the bullet at 400 yards...
I guess if yur gunna pop a big bear with a 6.5-284,
you might as well do it from a safe distance....
...like 400 yards.

What are your thoughts?


An irresponsible stunt!
 
This topic always brings lively debate. It's discussed add nausium on our Alaska forum. Lots of people talk and you'll hear stories about some guy who shot one with a .17 going 9,000 fps, blah, blah, blah. These bears (Browns/Grizzlies) are BAMFs. If you are close, which most situations end up that way, there isn't enough gun, cause if they come, and they do, you'll wish you had an A-10 in your pocket. A Griz was killed in Denali this past summer by a hiker who shot it with a .45ACP, shot it 10 times, but it died. Should that be your gun of choice, probably not. These discussions always take on a life of their own, with the "yhea, Eskimos shoot polar bears with a 243 and they don't have any problems..." and the "that's irresponsibe..." sides. When it comes to big bears, use the biggest gun you can shoot comfortably. I could go on but I won't, I'll just watch...
 
I don't want this to turn into a heated debate....just want to hear some of your thoughts on the subject.
It appears that most feel the caliber is too small and the distance too far.
That would be my opinion as well.
I find some comments interesting though.
Stanly, thanks for your comments.

I spent a great deal of my time in Alaska out wondering the hills and mountains, just sight seeing, exploring and scouting. All of it done solo.
Initially I was carrying a 44 mag revolver for a little peace of mind.
Then, I was reminded that there is a difference killing a bear and stopping a bear. Lots of calibers will kill a bear, a lesser number will stop a bear that is intent on ruining your day.
I guess I'm one of those who would prefer to have enough gun to put that critter down as opposed to tracking one into the alders with my 6.5-284 (or other)

Stanly, could you pm me that Alaskan forum you referred to?

Mark
 
I saw the same show and questioned the caliber selection. He did note that it was a "prototype" weapon and load. I believe it was a rep. from Kimber that was doing the shooting.

Just like everything else in this world they will do anything to sell you something....now they can run an add and say it's a "proven" Grizzly gun.
 


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