600-800 yard round?

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Im planing on getting a target rifle to shoot out to 800 yards. Maybe do some long range hunting also. ( coyotes, deer, hogs )

Im looking at a 20" 6.5 Grendel upper for my ar-15.

But ive been thinking maybe i should get a bolt gun in .308 or something similar.

I dont want to drop my bank account on one through beacuse I still need a nice glass....

any thoughts?

~Bryan
 
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A bolt gun in a 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm will do everything you want. I tend to stray away from 30 cals just because(for example) to beat a 6.5mm 140gr. VLD you have to go to a 210gr. VLD in 30 cal. If I was to build another rifle for long range hunting I would go with a 7 WSM, 6.5x284, 260, or anything along those lines. 6.5 Grendel in your AR would work great as well if you do not want to buy a bolt rifle.

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They will all shoot and kill that far, it's your components that will dictate weather its a target/hunting accurate.
For hunting accuracy, I personally keep in mind energy delivery at a certain distance. Accuracy is ultimately the most important but if you're not delivering good pop, it won't have the hydrostatic shock.

I'll second the 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm suggestion. Cousin is looking to get a 6.5x284 for long range dogs and a 7mmRUM for long range deer/elk.
I myself am looking at a 7mmSAUM in an AR10
 
Originally Posted By: EDPWhat exactly is a 6.5 Grendal? Compared to say a 6.5x284

Basically, short action vs long action. The Grendel is not a Magnum case so it doesn't have the extra space to make up for the short action size.
6.5 Grendel
6.5x284

The 6.5x284 shows it launching a 142g Sierra at 3050 fps while the 6.5 Grendel is only showing a 123gr Lapua Scenar at 2,620

Obviously bullet/powder combos will make the difference but the 6.5x284 has got the case capacity to toss them quite a bit faster.

Grendel is saying Case capacity is 35.0 grains of water
6.5x284 is saying Case capacity is 68.33 grains of water

ALTHOUGH, if you wild cat a 6.5WSSM from Dtech with a 40 degree shoulder, you're going to be getting much closer to the 3000fps range with match 140 bullets, but then again...thats back to the wildcat argument.


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6mm-06, 6.5-06, 6.5-284 but depends on if you reload or not 6.5-284 has some factory ammo now but not so sure the others do 6.5-284 is really hard to beat though
 
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Originally Posted By: cbass16They will all shoot and kill that far, it's your components that will dictate weather its a target/hunting accurate.
For hunting accuracy, I personally keep in mind energy delivery at a certain distance. Accuracy is ultimately the most important but if you're not delivering good pop, it won't have the hydrostatic shock.

I'll second the 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm suggestion. Cousin is looking to get a 6.5x284 for long range dogs and a 7mmRUM for long range deer/elk.
I myself am looking at a 7mmSAUM in an AR10



I concurr. Some people will take an existing rifle and strip it down to do a build. If you go the savage route you'd be able to rebarrel yourself. What is your budget? 500$ - 2000$? Look for components, trigger, barrel, etcc.... in your price range.
 
Get somethin' ~bigger that'll shoot an A-Max accurately. Take a look at the Savage Target Actions--pretty good bang for the buck (single shot bolt).

If i were building another bigger rig i'd go for the 6.5 (or maybe 7) RSAUM.
 
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Bryan8,
You need to decide what platform you wish to use. If it is a bolt rifle, their is an endless variety of calibers to choose. If you want to use the AR-15 platform, there are fewer options.
 
The 30 cal, especially the 308, is tried and true. You can get as wildcat as you want, but if accuracy and energy is what you want a 308 is awful hard to beat!!!
 
Originally Posted By: EDPWhat exactly is a 6.5 Grendal? Compared to say a 6.5x284

The 6.5 Grendel was designed by Bill Alexander of Alexander Arms to fit in the AR-15 platform. I would refer you to 65grendel.com for more info, but the site was hacked into and has not been brought back up yet.
 
Originally Posted By: tt35A bolt gun in a 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm will do everything you want. I tend to stray away from 30 cals just because(for example) to beat a 6.5mm 140gr. VLD you have to go to a 210gr. VLD in 30 cal. If I was to build another rifle for long range hunting I would go with a 7 WSM, 6.5x284, 260, or anything along those lines. 6.5 Grendel in your AR would work great as well if you do not want to buy a bolt rifle.

I agree with this. I've used 243, 7-08, 308, extensively. The 308 drops off the table faster than all the others.

My new F-class rig is chambered in 260 Remington, twisted 1-8.........
 
6BR would be my first choice. It is a proven performer at the ranges that you are interested in competitive shooting and it has great brass available (Lapua).
The 260/243 is a good round too, but the 6BR would be my choice. 1-8 twist and you are set.
 
Well for shooting deer at 800 yards, that leaves out 6mms IMO.

You need a 6.5 or 7mm of some sort. High BCs, load an AMAX or VLD and your set to 1K.
 
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