600-800 yard round?

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Okay guys let me dish out some more info, i left it kind of open ended.

Im looking for a target and hunting rifle to shoot out to around 600-800 yards. Id be shooting steels, and game ranging from yotes and ghogs to whitetail and hogs. Im looking to spend $1500 max includeing glass.

If I go the Ar route, I will be getting a 6.5 Grendel Upper with a 20" barrel. I know that for sure. It will run me 700ish which would leave me $800 for glass.

But Im open ended on the bolt gun. I want a bolt beacuse then I dont have to mess with switching uppers when I want to shoot. If a could get good bolt setup for under $700 id jump on that but i dont know if thats going to happen.

Right now I dont reload, but i plan on getting a press soon. Id need a cal with facotry ammo.

So now that i need factory ammo for a little, and im going to be shooting at deer and such at 500+ yards what round would you say?

~Bryan
 
Honestly shooting factory ammo, you probably shouldn't be shooting past 500yards. this is coming from a guy that works for an ammo company.
 
I've been using a braked .300 Win. Mag. with 208 grain A-Maxes for a few years...IMHO is the cats rear end for long range stuff...
 
I just bought a Savage Model 10FCP in 308 with a choate tactical stock. Big barrel channel and so even putting it on my tripod, way up front on the forearm, and putting pressure on it, it maintains plenty of clearance.

Then ordered a Bushnell 4.5x30X50 6500 from opticsplanet for $730.

700 for the gun, 730 for the scope, Hoping to shoot her tomorrow, the many reviews I've read say she'll shoot .5-.7moa with match ammo, like the federal gold medal round. If I do my part

It is my f-class 600yard gun, along with my new coyote blaster, meant for long range, but I've got no other rifle now...

It is a serious tank though, heavy is an understatement, but I'm fine with it if it puts the bullet where I want.
Here is a very rough photo. Something to look at anyways...
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Originally Posted By: chrebyIs the 6.8mm on anybodies list?


I cant speak for anyone else, but definitely not on my list. The bullest designed for use in the 6.8 have a low b.c. It is a good deer a cartridge, but 600 - 800 yards down range? It is not on my list of long range hunting/target chamberings.
 
Originally Posted By: Bryan8hows the drop on a .308 at 800 with a 100 yard zero?


I dont know about 800 yards, but I have experience at 600 yards and the adjustment is about 50 - 58 depending on conditions with a 155 nosler custom competition and 45.5 varget. The adjustment from 600 to 1000 is about 80 adjustments. These adjustments are made with a 1/4 adjustment. I hope this helps. It will help if you get a rail/scope base that has a 20 moa adjustment built in. I hope this helps.
 
Originally Posted By: Bryan8hows the drop on a .308 at 800 with a 100 yard zero?

Depends on what bullet you run. I'd personally wouldn't run match bullets myself for hunting. For steel gongs, all the way.

155gr Scenar @ 2925, 30*, roughly 21 MOA to get to 800yds.

175 SMK @ 2600, 30*, roughly 27.5 MOA to get to 800yds.

168 TTSX @ 2700, 30*, roughly 26 MOA to get to 800yds.

.308 is a boat anchor for LR work/Hunting IMO.

If you don't reload, it'll limit you quite a bit.
 
Yep. Agreed. I'm 12.75moa @ 600yds with a 175 SMK @2600fps.

After that it drops like a brick.

This is with a 200yd zero. A 100yd zero would not make much sense........
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunA 100yd zero would not make much sense........

really?

I zero everything I own at 100yds with the exception of 22LR. Everything from 17HMR to 338LM.

Can you explain how it doesn't make any sense?
 
You get more adjustment out of your scope for LR shooting if you can zero it for a longer distance in most cases.

I use to put 300 yard zeroes on my rifles and dial up from there. Missed a lot of coyotes in the 150-250 range because itd be upwards of 3.5" high and I'd always forget that in the heat of the moment. I went back to the 200y zero and dial from there. 100y zero doesn't make sense to me either, unless your only limited to a 100y range. Tried it a few times but you gotta start holding over stuff after 200 yards.

250y zero is almost about perfect for your flatter shooting cartridges IMO for coyotes and big game. Puts you anywhere usually 1.5-2" high at 100, and 2-2.5" high at its highest point, and only 2-3" low at 300 which is still almost a dead on hold on a coyote.

I've NEVER had to use a 20 MOA on any rifle I've owned to shoot out to 1000 yards. Standard LA cartridges such as 2506,270 and your standard 7 RM, 300 WM, magnums with a 200y zero, high BC bullet, and a leupold scope or somethign with a good amount of MOA will get you to 1K easy...

Your standard SA cartridges are where you need a 20 MOA base to reach 1K at times. Depends on several things, zero range, bullet used, MV, how much MOA your scope has.

I load a 243 w/105 amax at 3050fps and I dont have a special 20 MOA base on it to reach out to 1K with a leupold mk 2, 6-18 scope.
 
We are talking 600-800yd rifles here. Not 17HMRs and 22s.

Do you shoot long range? Judging by your question, I'm thinking you don't. With a 308 you are talking 11" difference or so in drop @ 500yds between a 100yd and a 200yd zero. That number gets appreciably bigger the farther the yardage. A 100yd zero just isn't practical and I don't know of any LR shooters who use one..............

 
Put a lot of 30-06 rounds downrange using 168 gr. SMK's @ 2700 fps. From 100 yard zero normal comeups were: 100-200 yds =+3moa, 200-300=+ 3moa. Beyond 300 switched to 190 gr. SMK's @2600 fps. and came up 13.5moa from 300-600; for 600 to 1000 average come-ups were: 600-800=+10, 800-900=+6 and 900-1000=+5.

The 30-06 can be pushed a bit harder than the 308 using heavier bullets w/a better BC.

Regards,
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I normally sight all my LR rifles to their maximum point blank range (MPBR) so that I am just a few inches high at 100 spot on at 200 and then just a few inches low at 300 yds. That way as long as I am within the 300 yd mark (approximation). The trajectory data for a specific load is easily calculated with a ballistics program or readily available charts. I can simply hold right on without worrying about adjusting for the shot when hunting.
If I am shooting LR past my MPBR, I use my ballistic program for the dope and dial.
 
Originally Posted By: CurlywoodsI normally sight all my LR rifles to their maximum point blank range (MPBR) so that I am just a few inches high at 100 spot on at 200 and then just a few inches low at 300 yds.

If you are always spot on at 200, wouldn't that be a 200yd zero and not MPBR?
 
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