600-800 yard round?

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No, it is not the flattest shooting round. I like it to 600. 800 max. There are simply a whole lot of better choices. Cartridges that shoot flatter, burn less powder, and recoil less......
 
2muchgun, yes I shoot it at short range as well. Never been to a competition? Targets are typically from 11yds to 1200yds. So you can hit steel at 1000, can you hit a .30 caliber dot on paper at 100yds? How about at 77yds? These are typical tests put upon you at a competition.

calling4life, I never said I was an expert. I'm definitely no rookie to long range shooting, and I've proven it in competition. I have yet to get to a "serious" competition like steel safari or the hide cup... but it'll happen.

You are right in that thread, as everyone has a different answer.

My advice to you is visit some long range competitions. You'll find just what I found: Most of the talk that goes on in internet forums is just that - Talk.

Secondly, the reason you always get different answers is because you can accomplish the same result A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS! That is why the sport of shooting long range is so fun. You can do it YOUR WAY and still win.

The most important thing is to NOT do what 2muchgun did and act like your way is the only way. The more experience you get, the harder that will be.
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunBTW, I saw the pic of your rifle. I thought you had the other type of Choate stock, this one:

Who's this directed at?

Originally Posted By: 2muchgunNo, it is not the flattest shooting round. I like it to 600. 800 max. There are simply a whole lot of better choices. Cartridges that shoot flatter, burn less powder, and recoil less......

100% correct.
 
I think you need to remember that it was you who took issue with what I said, not the other way around.

Most of the shoots I enter START at 200yds. LR prone matches. They call them LR for a reason. For that, I use a LR gun, with a LR zero.

The other shoots I attend are egg shoots and such at 100 and 200 yds and I use an entirely different gun(s) for that more times than not........
 
Originally Posted By: orkanOriginally Posted By: 2muchgunBTW, I saw the pic of your rifle. I thought you had the other type of Choate stock, this one:

Who's this directed at?

Originally Posted By: 2muchgunNo, it is not the flattest shooting round. I like it to 600. 800 max. There are simply a whole lot of better choices. Cartridges that shoot flatter, burn less powder, and recoil less......

100% correct.



Directed @ C4L.......
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunI think you need to remember that it was you who took issue with what I said

No sir, that is wrong. I asked you to explain what you said. Nothing more. It is when you suggested I didn't have any experience in long range shooting that I took exception.
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunBTW, I saw the pic of your rifle. I thought you had the other type of Choate stock, this one:

http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_Ultimate_Sniper_Stock_for_Savage_Short_Action_Centerfeed_Only.cfm

I like the one you have MUCH better.......

Oh, well thank you, I honestly love the feel of this stock, it fits me very well.

I like the optional cheek piece as well, for the ring height I needed, however, it is attached with a screw, not a problem until I have to clean, I have to take it off or I can't even get the bolt out. Over time this may pose a problem.

So, a new solution to that problem will be looked into, just haven't hit the epiphany yet, although in all reality, velcro on the top of the regular stock and on the underside of that cheekpiece would probably hold it just fine and make removing it easier.
 
I've not seen one in person, but would be interested in the quality of the construction and such and the feel of it, weight wise and such.

I understand it has a full length aluminum bedding block?

Is it all fiberglass?
 
It was HOW you said it. I thought you were saying it to be a smartazz, and least that's the way it came off to my friend and I. Anyway, it's all good.........
 
At longer distances and especially hunting: it takes bullet weight, case size/velocity, & great optics.

Pick up and read a copy of "PRECISION SHOOTING AT 1,000 YARDS", edited by Dave Brennan, before you start shelling out lots of money and lead.
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunNow that we are over that, not to hijack the thread, but how do you like that Premier?

I've got 3 of them. Two 5-25's and 1 3-15. They are incredible. My "go to" scope if you will. I have used nightforce, S&B, IOR, and most other "high end" scopes and the premier just fits me perfectly. I sold my nightforce once I got a premier. They are that good. If the nightforce had better illumination and zero-stop controls, I would like them a lot more.

Elevation. On my 308 I have 19.7 mils of available elevation in the turret from 100yd zero. On my 338 I've got 24 mils, and I can get to all of them without turning the turret past the 2nd turn.
 
I ran Leupolds for years and still have a boat load of them. I've used a couple of Nightforce and like them a lot. 8-32x56 will go on my 260 when I get it back. USO has never impressed me a bit for the price. Heard too many horror stories about IOR to buy one, but have fondled a few. Schmidts are nice, but I always opted for Mark 4s for the price.

The Premiers are a tank of a scope. I've no real experience with them, but a guy who attended a shoot at our range let me try his. Very nice optics, still not sure if I ever want to or need to spend more money on scopes than my Mark 4s or Nightforce.......
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunI've not seen one in person, but would be interested in the quality of the construction and such and the feel of it, weight wise and such.

I understand it has a full length aluminum bedding block?

Is it all fiberglass?

Yes on the full length bedding block

I'm not savvy enough to give you an answer on the fiberglass I guess...
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Can't find the answer to it, and on feel alone it just isn't something I'd know, but I do love the warranty section on their website.
 
Hmmmm. It has to fiberglass, I'd think. I just found this:

http://www.combatstocks.com/Choate_TACTICAL_Stock_for_Remington_Short_Action.cfm

Says it weighs 3 lbs 11ozs. In comparison, my H-S PST-025 I showed you weighs 4.2 lbs and it has adjustable cheek and butt as well as FL aluminum. So your stock is pretty heavy, indeed. My A3 only weighs 2.6 lbs.

The rail on the bottom is a nice touch. My 260 with A5 is at Kampfelds getting a McMillan picatinny type rail inletted/installed on the bottom right now. I have a Harris bipod adapter also, but I am going to put a custom made F-class type bipod on it..............
 
I want to say the choates are all polymer. Thats how they were able to get away with that low of a price. I don't know this for sure though.
 
I'm pretty sure the other ones are. And that makes sense, but the weight of it puzzles me then.

I don't know. It looks to have some texture, like a fiberglass stock in the pic, but hard to tell.
B&C medalists only run around that price with FL aluminum and fiberglass......
 
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