Alert! Oregon Trappers

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What works for you in Pa (timberdoodle) does not work for the west at all.
CO's(wardens) don't see it that way in the west, you will get a ticket period.
We don't have the animals to the square mile like you do in PA.
People with your mind set we don't have to worry about the anti's, you way of thinking will kill trapping.
Just because a 72 hour check is the law doesn't mean you can't check as often as you like. You can check every 9-12 hours if you want.


That didn't come across my mind but you bring up a very good point about there being more animals per square in the east. I see you westerners point now. My apologies to you all for whatever confusion I may have caused.
 
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What works for you in Pa (timberdoodle) does not work for the west at all.
CO's(wardens) don't see it that way in the west, you will get a ticket period.
We don't have the animals to the square mile like you do in PA.
People with your mind set we don't have to worry about the anti's, you way of thinking will kill trapping.
Just because a 72 hour check is the law doesn't mean you can't check as often as you like. You can check every 9-12 hours if you want.


That didn't come across my mind but you bring up a very good point about there being more animals per square in the east. I see you westerners point now. My apologies to you all for whatever confusion I may have caused.



Hey- you just brought up an honest concern and were open minded enough to hear other opinions. No need to apologize- think of how many people will learn something new from this thread.

I hadn't thought about rat trappers checking multiple times in 24 hours - glad you brought it up. THanks.

Tim
 
I agree I didnt think about the animals per square mile sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intention. I hope all works out for the best and you all get what you want.
 
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Livetrap Said: I figure it's our goal as hunters/trappers to accomplish our goals as humanely as possible. Why let that critter sit and suffer in a coni that was supposed to kill but didn't? Or a fox, cat or coyote strip the meat from it's leg in a futile attempt to get free after a couple, three days.

Yancy said: Livetrap I have used foot hold traps for close to 50 years, and I have yet to see anything like you described, how long have you used foothold and Coni Traps? looks like you are quoting a page straight out of the ANTIS book, Yancy



what i was giving were worst case scenarios. never seen a crittier strip the meat from the bone in a leg hold but i have on 2 counts had to dispatch opossums that weren't killed in the bucket set by the #160 coni i used to trap/kill them.

yep, got the anti's handbook right here. in fact, i'm on their side. all the $$$ and time i spend each year killing these poor, defenseless crittiers is just a trick for them mean ol' hunters. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
Bill would shrink trap check interval
Farm and ranch lobbyists hope legislation doesn’t get a hearing

Mitch Lies
Capital Press Staff Writer

SALEM - Farm and ranch lobbyists and wildlife services officials are keeping watch on a bill that would reduce the maximum allowable time trappers could go between checking predator traps.

Senate Bill 672, sponsored by two Portland Democrats, is in the Senate Environment and Natural Resources Committee. It has yet to be scheduled for a hearing - and farm and ranch lobbyists hope it never gets one.

The bill would reduce the maximum allowable trap check interval for most predatory species from 76 hours to 24 hours.

A federal official said the bill would cost Oregon farmers and ranchers up to $5.5 million in livestock and crop losses by dramatically reducing the number of traps USDA wildlife services agents could operate.

The 26 federal wildlife services agents serving Oregon provide trapping services to about 4,400 farmers and ranchers each year, said Dave Williams, director of USDA Wildlife Services. Williams estimated trappers could service fewer than 1,000 farms and ranches under a 24-hour trap check interval.

Maintaining existing service levels under a 24-hour interval, he said, would cost the state about $500,000.

"You want to check traps as often as possible," Williams said. "You want to know if you're getting the job done; if you're getting the animal that is causing the problem. But things come up. Therefore, the flexibility of 76 hours is critical."

The 76-hour interval was established in 2004 by the Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission after nearly a year of debating the issue. It provides flexibility for agents, many of whom serve farmers and ranchers for hundreds of square miles, Williams said.

Senate Bill 672 also eliminates provisions in current law allowing trappers to go a week between checking traps in cases of ongoing predation and up to a month between checks of kill traps.

The bill also stipulates that only licensed trappers can check traps, eliminating the ability of a farmer or rancher to check a trap set by an agent.

"I don't see much wiggle room there," said Larry Cooper, a deputy administrator of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, when asked if he could see any flexibility in the bill.

The bill requires 24-hour trap check intervals for traps set for coyote, badger, beaver, bobcat, fisher, gray fox, marten, mink, muskrat, nutria, opossum, otter, rabbit, raccoon, red fox, spotted skunk, striped skink and weasel.

Farm lobbyists believe the bill is a reaction to the disappointment animal rights activists expressed after the state wildlife commission established the 76-hour interval for most predator species in February 2004.

The Humane Society of the United States had asked the commission to set the interval at 24 hours or at the most 48 hours.

Wayne Pacelle, a senior vice president of the society, promised at the time to bring forward a ballot initiative "to halt the use of inhumane traps in Oregon."

Oregon law requires traps set for fur bearing animals such as bobcat, raccoon and mink, be checked every 48 hours. Traps set for coyote and other predators must be checked every 76 hours, except in special circumstances, such as ongoing predation.
 
Here is a segment of the last OTA Newsletter...

"Gary Schroederm fur buyer and state senator from Idaho gave trappers at out Klamath Falls meeting some excellent advice on how to get involved in the political process and how to defend against the kind of legislation that we now face, as follows...

Get to know your local representatives

Help them during their campaigns

Put up lawn signs, stuff letters, etc. This is better than money.

Don't show up only when you need something.

20-50 emails or a few telephone calls can get the attention of your lawmaker

Testimony at hearings, from regular people is much better than testimony from a lobbyist

If you testify at a hearing on a bill, prepare in writing and highlight your main points. You may only have a minute or two to make your points.

Casual dress in normal street clothes is good"

Other points made...

Dont ramble during testimony, have your points well thought out and make them quickly. Any trapper that testifies before a legislative committee will in essence be representing all trappers. Please be well prepared if you plan to testify. It is also a good idea to run your testimony by someone with experience in legislative testimony before you give it in a public meeting.
 
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