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getfoxy

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First off I want to clarify that I am in no way,shaper, or form an expert but do posses What I belrive to be basic knowledge of firearms and such.

So my question is do you guys ever get tired of talking firearms and bullets with the general public? I can't even stand to talk about it to people other than the with the members here. People down here buy a rifle, ammo, sight it in at 30 yards enough to hit a coffee can a go deer hunting. These same people think all bullets are equal, never heard of a twist rate, and could really care less about accuracy. I am not an accuracy nut but like knowing my rifle inside and out. Do any of you guys ever get tired of dealing with this? Most of the time I seem to know more about their rifle than they do. Granted there's a few who reload and seem knowlegable but most are what I call weekend warriors. They hunt two weeks outta the year and that's it.
 
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And did I mention the number of people who think that the difference between a 150 grain shell and a 180 is .. Are you ready for it? 30 grains of powder difference.
 
Years ago a friend of mine showed up to go rabbit/pheasant hunting with a scope on his shotgun. I asked what was with the scope. He showed me how he could "set the range" with the scope. 3 for 30 yds to 9 for 90 yds. I decided to hunt on the far side of him!
 
I am a weekend warrior when it domes to the guns...I am to devoted to the actual sport of hunting to be a know it all when it comes to guns.... I sight them in, I shoot them, I clean them, than repeat.......inbetween actually going out and hunting.

 
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In a day at the range or gun store / sporting goods counter I take the hunting season only shooters as an opertunity to expand their knowledge and hopefully expand their participation in the various shooting sports. They buy a hunting license thus they are number to the politicians which is a positive in my book. The ones I have a problem with are the sales people in the sporting goods departments that play know-it-alls and are giving false or misleading information to the uneducated. I have had some go as far as argue with me but generally they give a "well but". Just speaking as the past president of the local gun club, past chairman of the local Friends of the NRA, and several years as a Hunters Ed Instructor.
 
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It just seems that around here you can't hardly seem to tell anyone anything. They know it all. So It's hard to logically talk
 
I dunno... you can say anything here if yer Name is in the proper Color...
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For me it is worse listening to some nitwit at Gander Mt. or Cabelas behind the firearms counter spew out BS to people while all involved consider him an authority on the subject............
 
A guy at the range just a few days ago was blasting away next to me with his .300WM w/muzzlebreak. I heard him say something to the effect about not hitting his paper. I looked at his target through my scope and said yep your not on paper. He said "But it's a brand new scope"..."Put it on last week for deer hunting". I asked him was it on paper when you mounted it? He just looked at me like"?????????". He never zeroed it! He just slapped it in some rings and went hunting....proceeded to miss two deer according to him.

I don't expect hunters to be exceptionally knowledgeable but I do expect them to know they have to zero their scope. Now that I think about it, I once saw a scope at the range that was mounted backwards, the ocular lens was where the objective lens should be. No, the guy wasn't trying to shoot it that way...he just threw it on and went to the range.



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Sure, I don't have a lot of patience for people that don't know anything.

I have less patience for people that don't have much knowledge themselves, complaining about people with no knowledge.
 
getfoxy, I know just what you mean. Perhaps more frustrating than anything else is that no matter the truth of your explanation, it Will Not be believed. Some of my perennial aggravations are:

Ballistic tips fly faster than plain bullets.

All hollow points blow up on deer.

Switching bullet weights doesn't effect accuracy, just how high to aim.

Sighting in at 30 yards is the same as sighting in at 200 yards. (Old Redfield advertisements helped this one along)

Neck shots kill or miss altogether.

Speed kills no matter where ya hit 'em.

Bullets must "dump" their energy inside an animal. (deer hunters again)

Guys like these don't know very much, but what they think they know they believe down to the roots.
 
I know a guy who works at the local DNR run range. He has a Tasco scope with 2 large holes blown completely through the tube on both sides of the turrets. He retrieved it out of the trash can.

This is what happens when you decide to drill/tap your own receiver for scope bases and haven't a clue.

Just looking at it is priceless.......
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I pretty much keep to myself at the range. Sometimes I have a shooting buddy, most times not. Even though I am acquainted with most of the shooters at the range, I just shoot and record my results. Not a peep from me at a store anymore. I do all my Q&As on forums like this. Other than a few friends, this website is my social interaction about Coyote Hunting and shooting. Some of the topics are mundane but I dont mind.
 
I do not have a problem with ignorant people, as long as they are looking for advise and don't claim they already know everything. Ignorant people giving advise to other ignorant people I hate.

Jack
 
Originally Posted By: orkanSure, I don't have a lot of patience for people that don't know anything.

I have less patience for people that don't have much knowledge themselves, complaining about people with no knowledge.

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Originally Posted By: Jack RobertsIgnorant people giving advise to other ignorant people I hate.

Jack

Amen to that.

The ones that claim to know more than most seem to be the most hopeless.

I went to a long range competition recently, where 5 or 6 people were trying to "teach" me about shooting before the event started. Oh boy did they have a lot to say. When I took 1st place that day... I was approached by an entirely different crowd. All they did was ask me questions, which I kindly answered. The people "teaching" me earlier placed poorly, and were all shooting superior cartridges in terms of ballistics, compared to my 308win. I had several good conversations that afternoon with a couple good people, but I'll never forget mindset and mouths on the "experts" before it all got started.
 
Yah, which is why I dont talk or shoot with the general public.

I have my own private shooting range to go to, so as not to deal with them, and when I go to sporting good stores, I just listen, and secretly laugh inside at the some of the crap I here...

I really liked the last one I heard at the gas station on my way out to do some 1K shooting last year. Guy noticed my LRH sticker in the back window and asked how far I was shooting, I replied 1000 yards. He asks, what ya shooting? I reply, Rem 700's in 7 mag and 338 EDGE, tuned up with match handloads and leupold scopes with target knobs. He gives me this puzzling look and says, why you shooting such big guns with big scopes at such a short distance? As he proceeds to tell me he just got done hitting rocks at a mile with an open sighted mini 14. Couldn't help but laugh at this one, have a nice day I said...I think if I woulda listened to anymore of what that guy had to say, I would be a close candidate for the dumbest guy in the world...
 
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