Am I the only one

I think that this site is way more informative than some well known Sites.
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I dont mind teaching some one something that i know. I love to teach.
Like several others it [beeep] me off when i go to gander mountain and hear some employee spouting BS out his mouth making someone stupider when they leave then when they came in. Alot of the guys have no business working in the area they are in as i do being a brain surgeon.
There is a lot of sharp people on this and a couple other sites that i spend a lot of time on. 99% of the people on here its a been there done real deal when they offer up answers to question that are asked on the fourms. But you all ways have a few that talk out there arse but that to be expected. I love the web sites i have meet a lot of great people off of here over the couple years i have been on.
 
i dont have to go to a gun range
i can go out behind my inlaws and shoot out to 500 yards
so no ned to listen to the knowitalls at the range
i go to the gun shop and theres usually a good group of guys there who know alot if i have any questions
aand vice versa i know alot about airguns and help these guys about the difference in twists and pellet shapes and speeds blahblahblah
 
This is a great thread! I have 1% of the knowledge of 99% of the people on this site but when I talk to the general public about guns I feel like a genius!lol. So many of my friends are 2 week out of the year hunters and most of the time will argue with me til I prove them wrong. Heres a few know it all topics I still cant change some of their minds about. 1. .308,30-06,300wm, their all the same cuz a 30 cal is a 30 cal 2. reloading ur own ammo doesnt shoot any better or more accurate than the cheap stuff at wal-mart 3.the bigger the rifle, the farther it shoots, example; a 30-30 shoots way farther than a 270. 4. 2 55 grain bullet shoots the same as a 120 grain bullet, the 120 just has more knock down power 5. when u shoot something with a bow, it takes 10 times longer for it to die than if you shot it with a gun. 6. my gun is just as accurate as yours cuz i can shoot a 5 gallon bucket at 80 yds. The list goes on for days!
 
The hands down worst is the staff at commercial sporting goods stores that are "firearms experts" Earlier this year I was really stuck on .17 centerfires so I decided I was going to buy a Remington 700 sps varmint in .17fb. I went to my local gun shop and priced one out and I wanted to do some price comparisons, so I went to my local dicks sporting goods, Gander mountain, and scheels all sports. I didnt see one on the shelf in .17fb at scheels so I asked a guy in the gun department and he said hed never heard of the round and hed have to ask his supervisor if he could get one but it would cost way more because it was rare. hah! Next was dicks. They never heard of it and they couldnt order something that didnt exhist. The worst was Ganger mtn. I was looking at a used 700sps varmint in 223 and the guy at the counter said a new one of those is only 80 bux more. So I said do you have one in .17 remington Fireball? He said no thats a custom benchrest caliber and I would have to have a gunsmith build me that gun and make the bullets. Wow I said! So I walked over to the ammo section, grabbed a box of .17 fb remington umc ammo and walked back up to the counter and asked the guy if he had a 2010 remington catalogue. He said sure! I flipped right to the page and said ur tellin me this is a custom round and they dnt even make ammo for it? he said thats correct! I turned the mag. 2wards him, pointed to the listing for .17fb in 700 sps varmint, sat the box of ammo on the counter and pulled 9 100 dollar bills out of my wallet and sat it next to the ammo. He gave me a blank stare and I said calmly to him, Your expert opinion just lost you a rifle, scope and rings sale. My friend laughed at him and said do you have a job application for my friend here? Hahaha! The guy was speechless and informed me that all of this was a mistake by remington and that the ammo wasnt supposed to be released until 2012 and the catalogue was a typo. What would you say to that?
 
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunFor me it is worse listening to some nitwit at Gander Mt. or Cabelas behind the firearms counter spew out BS to people while all involved consider him an authority on the subject............

I try to not even listen to what the counter guys at our gander have to say they are clueless. The day before our deer firearms season I was at a new gun shop in the area when a guy came in looking for a sluggun combo and the guy behind the counter was going to sell him a gun with a scope already bore sighted and ready to go shoot deer. I waited outside for the guy and told him if he was lucky bore sighting might get him on paper but it was no way good enough for hunting.
 
Yep. I pretty much stay out of it. I would have told that particular guy also, though. Save him some grief and maybe a deer some suffering.

Listening to them discuss optics is usually pretty disheartening also.....
 
I do most of my shooting at my own range I built. It's only 150 yards but I'm the biggest expert and idiot there most of the time.
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I try not to get involved in the obviously stupid conversations unless something is downright dangerous. Other than that, I find that most people have their minds made up and very few can be swayed.

I think most of us that know at least a little of what we are talking about can recognize the "special" people working at gun counters. I am fortunate to have pretty decent, and sizeable, gun store located right between Gander Mountain and Acadamy Sports. They also have prices that usually beat Gander, competitive with Acadamy, and people that know what they are talking about.

Last year my wife's nephew wanted to purchase his first handgun. After talking about what he wanted for about an hour sitting at my kitchen table, I took him to town. We checked GM and Acadamy and then we went to my favorite store and he made his purchase.
 
"I do most of my shooting at my own range I built. It's only 150 yards but I'm the biggest expert and idiot there most of the time. grin

I try not to get involved in the obviously stupid conversations unless something is downright dangerous. Other than that, I find that most people have their minds made up and very few can be swayed."

With you on all that, Bill, only my range is a little longer here in the wide open. Is it irresponsible not to say something if you hear a conversation that may lead to getting someone injured?I make it into a sportsmans warehouse every once in while, where I can actually handle things that interest me, and maybe get a few details on things I can't normally see. There are some guys there that seem to be pretty good, but at times they seem kind of jaded from having to deal with people that are already "experts" or people that have absolutely no idea and want the counter guys to put the perfect rig together to fit the needs of someone they have never seen before. I like to talk to all kinds of folks, but like everyone else here the overbearing experts or the the thick headed idiots are hard to take.
 
I went into Scheels once to pick up some 9mm Largo....the guy tried to sell me 9mm Luger...said it was the same thing.......I had to walk away.......
 
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Yes and also with patterning shotguns. I've never met a human being that properly patterns a shotgun for waterfowl. I've tried to explain but they don't believe me or just don't care.
 
Several of the guys I work / associate with have been into firearms,shooting, reloading, hunting etc. for much longer than myself so I don`t run into much of what has been mentioned here (lucky 4 me).I have run into a fella that "knew everything" before..ok whatever. Sometimes I have a habit of offering unsolicited opinion..for instance at Cabelas yesterday (new peashooter) a guy next to me at the counter was purchasing his first AR and I suggested he get a couple of them now and get it over with..he laughed, the young Veteran behind the counter gave his opinion that they were fine for predator hunting or shooting paper but was shall I say less than satisfied with them as a combat rifle.I can respect that opinion but felt it was ashame..? bummer.
 

I think it's the same practically everywhere. I see a lot of "so-called" experts at gun shops, hanging around and yapping with everyone who comes in, professing to know everything there is about guns, yet having little knowledge of anything.

A guy I knew years ago set his "deer rifle" in the rack, and season after season would pick it up and go deer hutning as if nothing had changed.

Another time my wife was discussing with another lady just in casual conversation, that I use a .22-250 quite a lot for groundhogs. A guy overheard the conversation and injected that he has a .22 magnum, which is the same thing. My wife told him, "no, it's not the same." The guy insisted that a .22-250 and .22 magnum were exactly the same cartridge.

My wife hadn't lived around me for years for nothing. She went on to explain that a .22-250 is a centerfire and a .22 magnum is a rimfire. She later told me the guy's face got red and he shut up. Both women had a good laugh.

 
I've talked to quite a few competition shooters over the past couple months, mainly because I have been looking for a long range rifle, gunsmiths as well. Now these titles don't make them experts, but, hopefully it implies some decent knowledge.

One thing us ignorant fools realize quick... everyone of you says something different, and for good reason, different strokes for different folks.

I say remington, you say savage, I say 308, you say 243AI, I say Leupold you say Nightforce.

One says barrel break in is complete BS and whoever does it is a moron, the next says it is essential and you're dumb not to do it.

Some wont touch a gun that shoots an inch at 100 yards, I had one guy tell me he'd throw my gun in the garbage if it was his... Harsh, but honest, and I did get rid of that gun.

Clean this way, no clean that way, nylon brush, no, brass.

You experts don't seem to have it all figured out, how can you expect the beginners to????
Especially when we get advice from 10 different people on 1 thing and everyone of them tells you a different way to do it.

I guess it just comes down to experience and you becoming an expert on your particular set ups, but then who's to say you should be giving advice to someone else about a different set up...

There are errors in judgment by everyone, yes, even you experts, and at times it may just be because you're human. What is your favorite gun: "my new custom rig I'm shooting today" why: In REALITY Because it is new, and you want it to be great and expect it to be great, that is why you dropped all that dough.

You may not really have the rounds through it to determine its greatness, but because you just spent a ton of dough on it and it is completely custom, your subconscious pushes it to the front of your mind and the excitement gets the best of you. We're only human, the $1000 gun has to be better than the $700 gun right...
 
WOW! calling4life, are you sure you dont have PM confused with a different forum? Chill Out Brother..lol
I understand what you are saying.
I (personally) hope to never come off like a know it all.
In life I have observed that folks with that know it all attitude are sometimes their own worst enemy..closed minded.
I will offer an opinion if I have one, and explain if it`s not understood, and always welcome differing opinions with an open mind..to further my knowledge..agree or not.
I think PredatorMasters and the members are a good source of information...example, yesterday someone inquired about barrel lapping...I believe Jack Roberts gave a most intelligent answer that made sense to me...I learned something.

EDIT- sorry it was nmleon...and I was going to bump that thread for you, but see that you allready know about that example:)
 
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It was merely to bring some perspective to a situation that seemed to be more about venting than anything constructive.

We all get hit with moments that we later realize were "less than intelligent" at best.

But, at the same time I have had plenty of Bigstore BS over the last couple of months, and seen my share of ignorant BS trying to be crammed down my throat.

So, I get the need to vent a little, just don't hit the "god complex" level if you can avoid it
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CALLING 4 LIFE, I understand exactly where your coming from. I think mostly there are opinions regarding rifles and their procedures to maintain them. Im like a sponge when it comes to learning about things that interest me but I have mixed opinions about some of the advice not persnally knowing the people and their accomplishments. I have made a very ignorant, cocky statement on here in wich I say to my friends all the time wich is a joke to us, but someone on here took it the wrong way and it escalated to a huge ordeal in wich I was dubbed the idiot. yes I am very young compared to most of the ppl here but im also one of few thats keeping this sport going into the future. I love all the tips and advice but theres no need to be a "expert" and laugh at my experience or degrade me cuz I didnt know something.
 
calling4life, you literally gave me the best laugh I had all day reading your post, LOL, thank you for that. Its the downright truth though about different strokes for different folks, but if your around or talk to the right people, you'll start to see the type of equipment it takes to become successfull at LR, theres little room for anything less then the best. Prepare to be broke, LR shooting is a very addictive/expensive hobby. However it is very very rewarding when you hear the sound of steel ringing at 1K+.
 
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunFor me it is worse listening to some nitwit at Gander Mt. or Cabelas behind the firearms counter spew out BS to people while all involved consider him an authority on the subject............

Yea, that bugs me too! A friend of mine asked about some handgun ammo behind the counter. The "expert" behind the counter said that ammo was so fast that it goes in feet per second. This
was indeed the dumbest comment I have ever heard concerning guns. I bet this guy voted for Obama.
 
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