Another calve killer dead!

Don't go away yotehuntr. We need all the amatuers we can get to cover our backs. Regretfully many of us need to be weekend warriors so we can maintain gainful employment.
 
It sounds like the arguement is over the name of the post. Who cares what the post is called? Yotehuntr did a great job helpin the landowner with his problem. Maybe we should let the moderators ok our titles before we post? Great job yotehuntr, hope to see more pics soon. I think most of us got the point of your post and enjoy you sharin your hunt.
 
Well those ADC guys arent getting rid of me this easy I cant believe all the private messages and emails from the good guys around here supporting me and for this I thank you guys.. The adc guys are just not happy cause Im doing thier job for FREE and if these guys are so good at killin the right coyote there leaving a ton on the property that soon become a problem this is called job security. I dont like leaving any around if a farmer asks I'll shoot everyone I see then let god sort em out leaving a farm with very few or no coyotes and you have a happy farmer the Adc guys dont want them dead or gone this cuts them out of money and the farmer is payin out the butt for half a$$ service I'll do it for free. I do realize that if you take a coyote out another one will fill the void but I'll be there again when Im called to do it again for free.
 
Yotehuntr and all,
No one was trying to get rid of anyone. I didn't ask anyone to go away or tell them that it was wrong to kill a coyote at any time of the year. That wasn't the original debate. The next thing that was blown out of porportion by somebody that had their "feelings" hurt was that I said Yotehuntr "didn't have a clue". If you re-read that post, you'll see that I was refering to whether or not that particular coyote was indeed the culprit, not anything personally about Yotehunter.
Glen Guess, I spell bad too, but it is usually readable, thats the best I can do.
As for the ADC stuff, I don't claim to be the "go to" expert. There are alot of guys that have done alot more of it than me and I try hard to learn from those guys, I'm just a student at this level. But as far as your last comments Yotehuntr, where I'm at, the ranchers don't put up with "half a$$ service". I have been gone for several days, camped in the country that I needed to hunt. I stay right out with the coyotes to get locations from howls in the night, so I can be on them in the morning at daylight. I just take a small tent and a sleeping bag. If I'm lucky I get to go to town and shower in the middle of the day when it's too hot to hunt. In the last three days I took five old coyotes and two dens for a total of 23 coyotes. Don't begin to tell me about how I do my job. I don't know what you do for a living, but I'm sure not going to tell you that you are pi$$ poor at it, unless I know you and know that for a fact. That would be like me telling Byron South that he is a terrible welder, because all welders are dumb a$$es. I said I was done with this post, but felt the need to defend myself with some of these posts. But put your hurt "feelings" away. Nobody was trying to get rid of you.

As far as the original subject, think of it this way:
Say you live in the suburbs of a big city, and thats where all the nice people live.
All of the criminals live in a small area in the center of the city.
One of the criminals starts coming into your neighborhood and stealing and murdering so you call the police and report it. So they start investigating to see who is coming into your neighborhood and stealing and murdering.
Meanwhile you tell one of your buddies about your problems with the criminal in your neiborhood, so he says "heck, I think I can help you out", and he drives down through the center of the city, and he sees a guy he's sure is a criminal, so he plugs him.
Then he comes back and tells you "Your problems are solved, I went and shot a criminal".
Meanwhile, the police so some investigating, and determine that the criminal coming into your neighborhood is named John Smith, and they catch him. The guy that your buddy shot was named Bill Smith. Maybe he was still a criminal, and maybe he needed shot, but it wasn't the guy that was affecting you personally.
 
cal: I just truly don't believe that the guy that started this post has any clue as to whether or not he killed a coyote that was actually the problem. He went out and killed a coyote that a rancher wanted dead. Good deal. But don't come back here and post that you killed the "calf killer" (it is calf, by the way) if you don't have a friggin clue.
guess: this is a cut and paste directly from page 1 CAL.if this is not a personal attack against yotehuntr! I don't know what is! you can call it what you want but you said and I quote again " I just truly don't believe that the guy that started this post has any clue as to whether or not he killed a coyote that was actually the problem!
cal:"Glen Guess, I spell bad too, but it is usually readable, thats the best I can do."
guess: another personal attack against yotehuntr! cal you corrected his spelling in the same sentence you said he had no clue! I doubt anyone here is has absolutely perfect spelling!and by the way it is GLENN GUESS!
cal:In the last three days I took five old coyotes and two dens for a total of 23 coyotes.
guess:those other 18, were they the the calf/sheep killers ?were any of them named john smith? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif did you check the belly contents of all 23? and if so did you tell the rancher you were through,if you found livestock parts in them? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

Now call I'm not questioning your abililty, expertise or experience.I'm sure if we were to hunt together we would have a good time, and you are welcome to come down and hunt anytime! the problem I had with this whole deal and I'm sure others felt the same way.Is that you guys were attacking this guy in a personal way!Byron asked that yall clarify how to determine whether or not any coyote was the "calf killer" by examining the stomach contents. and then you attaked yotehunter instead of actually answering byrons quetion.yotehunter was simply sharing his outdoor adventure with everyone!
cal I'm sure your a nice guy and a very qualified ADC prfessional ,I hope you take this post in a way that it doens't strain our relationship.I just want everyone to know how it feels to be questioned, held accountable and your opinions be scrutinized! no feelings hurt on my part, but I think you guys owe yotehuntr an appology! I think we can all agree to disagree and leave it at that! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Glenn,
As far as spelling, I was talking about typos and mixed up letters. As for my correction with yotehntr that is a simple use of the wrong word. Not a mis-spelling. Calve is what a cow does, calf is what she has. No biggy.
As for the coyotes, I never said I was after a specific sheep killer. Did I? For right now, I don't have any problem killing going on, and am just taking coyotes out of areas where sheep are or will soon be.
As for Byron, we argue about stuff all the time, but as far as I know are still friends. I tried to explain some stuff to him, but like they say, "You can always tell a Texan, you just can't tell them much". And I am obviously better at explaining stuff to coyotes than I am to people. As for "straining" our (yours and mine) relationship, I never knew we had one and have no idea who you even are. So as far as I can see there was never anything to strain. And since I have no clue who you are, it would be pretty hard for you to hurt my feelings or me to hurt yours. Besides that my wife says I don't have any feelings anyway. The only peoples scrutiny I worry about are the ranchers I work for. It's their livelyhood that I'm trying to help protect. Yotehntr just needs to quit sniveling and worrying about whats going on here and go kill some more coyotes. I commended him for it before and do again now. But I'm not too worried about him taking my job, even if he does it for free, and that was all I was trying to get across.
Most people don't know whats really involved and thats understandable. It's not in my job description to try to explain to everyone here either. So I'm leaving it at that, and leaving this particular thread for good this time.
 
When I started this post it wasnt to stir the pot or anything I suddenly got attacked saying I had no friggen clue. How do you know i dont have a clue?? I take this personal kinda like you take a comment toward your job personal. I never said I was trying to be an ADC guy, I was simply doing a guy a favor never did I say I killed the right coyote and never did I say I was finished with this area, before you came along and said I had no clue what i was doing. I could see it if I went out and shot a coyote then told the farmer problem solved but this never happened and I would never claim this as i know enough about coyotes to tell a farmer that. And you adc guys for the half a$$ job statement I appologize but you see my point,now dont be calling us weekend hunters idiots or that we have no clue, you may be suprised how many of us do have a clue.
 
Yotehuntr,
For the third or fourth time I'll re state this for the last time.
When I said you didn't have a clue..... I was referring to whether or not that particular coyote was a calf killer. Nothing else.
Nothing else.
Sorry that you are so thin skinned and are taking this so personally. Relax, go kill some more coyotes.
I apologize for offending you, but you are taking it out of context and way too personally.
 
Like I said before, I'll be out there with ya anytime. no matter what the reason may be. I'll be going to field test the Preymaster in the Hat Creek area sometime next week. I know nothing about this areas coyote population so i may not see anything. I need to test it out of our regular hunting area so that chance came up. knowing my luck I'll be sitting in a coyote bare area for no reason. We need to hit that ranch with it and see how it works cause we know they are there. Unless I'm now like that one guy you told me about then I'll have to try to find a place on my own.

t/c223encore.
 
Tc I havent been going out lately just been pounding the crappie at antelope and a few small bass. Im going out today to shoot some carp at almanor with my bow the usual size is about 14 pounds. The ranch I started this topic on has gone cold since the death of this coyote Ive been out a time or two since to talk to the rancher and he says all is well. I got some more property to hunt the other day fishing at antelope a guy who owns a pheasant club off of honeylake was up there and he told me to come down and kill all I wanted he said its real thick cover need a shot gun, Im savin this spot for winter and he said he has a ton of cats on there also.
 
This string of posts has been a continuing source of entertainment from my little corner of the world but I see it is beginning to culminate.
A farmer called Yotehuntr and it looks Yotehuntr like he did a good job calling in and dropping a coyote.
Yotehuntr thought it would be fun to share his story and pic with the rest of us so what better forum to do so. However, he titled his post (well we all know what it is titled) and it seemed to really get under the skin of some folks. I find this extremely humorous.
The ADC crowd was appalled that he titled it ______ without having inspected the stomach contents to prove the coyote's dining habits. Next, came the onslaught of the reasons Yotehuntr could not call it a calf killer (in the literal sense).
Someone writes back that it isn't a big deal ( and really, to the rank and file, it isn't) so lets drop it and move on, but, no way...the reasoning of why the title was wrong ad to go onward...
Here is my take on the self proclaimed professional ADC personnel. First, I'll have to assume your title is correct, since you do not post your professional certificate of credentials leaving your membership to the elite in question. Much the same way the coyote Yotehuntr killed didn't throw up his lunch to prove himself thus leaving the question there as well.
There are varying degrees of professionals. I mean, I pay a kid to mow sometimes and I suppose he can call himself a Professional Yardskeeper...it would really impress his fellow 6th graders and he could even get cards made.
Now, Yotehuntr captioned his kill in such a way that one could assume it was a calf killer; but he produced no physical evidence to substantiate this. However, since there was no autopsy; it cannot be proven that yote in question was not a calf killer...he may have even been a serial calf killer - we may never know.
Interestingly, the farmer did state that he has had no more kills so the circumstantial case could be made that he got the calf killer indeed.
By the way, Yotehuntr could be considered professional ADC man if one uses the dictionary and looks up that adjective. He seems to be skillful and has the pic to prove it.
Lastly, I find it vastly more interesting reading posts from Yotehuntr, guess, Byron and others who use the space to talk about upbeat things rather than see someone go on and on about their conceived discrepancy in someones title.
Unfortunately, I will now be forever scarred fearing that if my toilet stops up and a professional plumber has to come, I mean one who really HAS to know if I'm the culprit. I pray he heeds the precedent set by GUESS and stops the examination before he guts me and proves to the world once and for all that it is I WHO
IS FULL OF _ _ _ _ ...
bjh
 
I was called by my friend who has 300 acres and about 30 head of cattle. Either dogs or coyotes have been killing his cattle. I went out this morning and saw a large dog circling and biting the hind leg of one of the midsize cows. It kept looking towards the woods not me and barking. Then I realized what it was doing. I heard a lot of commotion and 5 dogs came out running to the field it was in, but they had one problem. They had to run into me first. I swung my remington .221 fireball towards them and shot the biggest dog at about 25 yards away from me. The other 4 ran back into the woods. To make a long story short I then shot the one that was in the field also. That was a very luck shot for me. I counted 423 very large steps to where the dog lay. The farmer was very happy especially since it looked like he was getting ready to lose another cow. He said he has lost 2 calves and 3 full grown cows. The neighboring ranchers told him they have lost sheep and goats also but it was unknown what killed their livestock.
 
Now thats how you know when you got a calf killer and the only{unless your GOD}, that you could know! congrats to you and the farmer!
 
RTA...A note on bovine killin dogs. A few years ago my friend in north Texas had about 300 head of 400 wt Florida yearlings running on wheat along the Red River. He bagan to notice some with chewed ears, bloodied legs and a dead one here and there. It started slow and ramped up...took about 10 days from the first incident till the killing started. A few days later he noticed a chow dog (big) chasing them and it ran off before he could kill it. Long story short, over the course of about 2 weeks, he killed 5 chows, located the dogs owner, and lost another 9 head with about 20 hd wounded. The killing didn't stop till he got the last dog (so hopefully your farmer doesn't have several mutts after his cattle). He also won a lawsuit against the dog's owner for damages.
Good huntin' !
bjh
 
Bill J H.... I shot what looked like a chow back in april. I saw it coming down the dirt road and when it saw my truck it stopped and kept looking around for me and putting his nose in the air trying to wind me. Then it cut through the field and was just walking around a herd of cows. I watched for about 30 minutes as it kept walking around the herd and appeared to be looking for something. The rancher was in the far back pasture and when he finished what he was doing he was driving out and the dog got spooked and started running my way. I hit it at around 40 yards as it was running. So that's three dogs so far, but tuesday morning I saw another 5 or 6 that were with the 2 I shot. There were 2 that looked like german shephards with black faces with grey and black through out the body. The rancher said he saw about 12-15 eating on the cow he lost. Hopefully he won't lose anymore cattle.
 
RTA/guess
Are you sure those were cow killers?
You didn't actually see them kill a cow did you?
I think they were herding dogs! Yup, that's it...herding dogs just trying to do their job. And you went and wiped out the whole lot of them.
The shame!!! Can you feel the shame??
 
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I didn't wipe them out!!!!


I got about 7 or 8 more to go.


I sure do feel shameful. I feel so shameful that I think it's depressing. So to get out of that depression I think I'm going back out there monday morning.
 
Yep, Shooting a few more should eliminate that shameful feeling /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I know that would definately work for me /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

t/c223encore.
 
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