Anyone have a CZ shotgun??

Thanks guys I'm not really sure whether I'm gonna get a shotgun or a true "varmint rifle" first. But I may just end up getting a name brand pump when I get a shotgun. Thanks for the suggestions from everyone though.
 
Yes I do have a Stoeger in the gun safe collecting dust on the count of its s piece of dog s###!!!! I'm an avid upland hunter and have shot lots of rounds through lots of shotguns. My go to is the Berreta a400 and a 1938 Lc Smith field grade 12 gauge.
 
im not grasping at anything. ive fired more rounds through shotguns than anyone i know. most likely more than you and really dont need someone that has never owned one telling me its not a good gun. I have shot competitively for 15 years and have fired around a thousand shotshells a week for as long as i care to remember. there are very specific things you need to do to maintain these guns and its very easy most people just dont care to do them. i have fired at least 4000 rounds through mine and have only cleaned it once. the m2000's had major issues and was very hesitant to shoot a 3000. but when i had a close friend that knows shotguns well rave about his little $500 truck gun i tried it out and finally bought one to keep in a hunting trailer on one of my properties as a back up. when my maxus took a crap i grabbed it and was pleasantly surprised. it kicks like a mule and isnt fancy at all but gets the job done every time. i would say that im sorry about whoever gave you a bad review on the gun but i personally know at least ten people that own them and have never heard one complaint. by the way call benelli the stoeger 3000 is the least returned gun for service issues out of the whole lot(THAT INCLUDES BERETTAS)
 
Originally Posted By: reaper4I have shot competitively for 15 years and have fired around a thousand shotshells a week for as long as i care to remember.................i have fired at least 4000 rounds through mine and have only cleaned it once.

That's 5 rounds of skeet a day (140+ rounds) ... 7 days a week. Year round. That's a bunch of shooting. I highly doubt Wayne or Susan Mayes ever shot that amount of ammunition.

4000 rounds with one cleaning? My son knew better than that at age 12.
 
well hidalgo i have my own range and have alot of fun shooting under the lights when i get off work. some weeks i dont shoot at all these days but Most weeks ill shoot at least that much. and Im just trying to see how many rounds the thing will cycle without a cleaning on average. around 2750 before it started consistently failing on the first go around. and i think to take jabs at someone because their opinion on one gun differs from yours tells alot about your maturity level. when i was twelve my dad taught me to be respectful of others opinions and beliefs and show your fellow man respect no matter your differences. i guess i was busy putting that into practice and let the dont torture test your shotguns lesson go in one ear and out the other. either way i have two of them
 
Originally Posted By: reaper4And i think to take jabs at someone because their opinion on one gun differs from yours tells alot about your maturity level.

Now you're getting off topic. A certain sign of a losing debate. What does my, your, or anyone else's maturity level have to do with the quality of a firearm?

I didn't take a jab at you. Not once. I was just amazed that anyone could shoot that much ammo. My son has shot competitive skeet for several years now and I know what that entails. But 150 rounds a day, every day, is more than I have ever heard anyone shooting.

Since you shoot competitively, how many Stoeger guns do you see at most competitive shoots? I've NEVER seen one. Should tell even the most casual observer something .........
 
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Originally Posted By: tugboaterYes I do have a Stoeger in the gun safe collecting dust on the count of its s piece of dog s###!!!! I'm an avid upland hunter and have shot lots of rounds through lots of shotguns. My go to is the Berreta a400 and a 1938 Lc Smith field grade 12 gauge.


Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotwhat model tug? what is wrong with it?

Originally Posted By: tugboater
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does the 2 smily faces mean you are very happy today or you really dont have a stoeger?
 
I never said it was a competition gun. You must have nothing better to do than start arguments on an online forum. Go hunt something or get a date. You have been confrontational the entire time. If you want to question my experience and ability, come on out and we can hit the range together
 
Originally Posted By: reaper4I never said it was a competition gun. You must have nothing better to do than start arguments on an online forum. Go hunt something or get a date. You have been confrontational the entire time. If you want to question my experience and ability, come on out and we can hit the range together

I'm not starting arguments ... just trying to assure that one of our members gets correct information. I (and several others) have supplied that. You are the one arguing.

I don't need a date ... I have a gorgeous wife right here at home.

I never questioned your experience nor your ability. I did, however, question your choice of firearm recommendations and the advice you gave. That still stands. The question was posed about a CZ shotgun. You recommended Stoeger and then began to tout the reliability and quality. It isn't quantum physics or rocket science to do a Google search and find out that there are few ... VERY few, people out there with your opinion. And that's fine. You can shoot any gun you like and it makes no difference or matter to anyone else in the world. But to recommend a product to a person when the vast majority of the world differs with your opinion is just plain wrong. The product has made it's own reputation, plain and simple. An isolated pocket of users doesn't prove the rest of the community false.
 
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Originally Posted By: utahyotekiller1Guys, I didn't mean to start an argument here. You answered my question and I won't be getting a CZ. Thanks for all the input.

LOL ... you didn't start anything. You asked for advice and got a lot of opinions. If you are still "up in the air" about different manufacturers, do a a Google search for CZ and Stoeger reliability. Then Google Remington, Browning, Winchester, or Beretta. I think you'll find what you're looking for.
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Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotOriginally Posted By: tugboaterYes I do have a Stoeger in the gun safe collecting dust on the count of its s piece of dog s###!!!! I'm an avid upland hunter and have shot lots of rounds through lots of shotguns. My go to is the Berreta a400 and a 1938 Lc Smith field grade 12 gauge.


Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotwhat model tug? what is wrong with it?

Originally Posted By: tugboater
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does the 2 smily faces mean you are very happy today or you really dont have a stoeger?




Yes I do have a Stoeger and I'm not sure the model #. It doesn't really matter. I gave my opinion one Cz and Stoeger shotguns, take it for what it's worth (just an opinion ). I'm not looking to pick fights here. Good luck!
 
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Originally Posted By: Hidalgo
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Since you shoot competitively, how many Stoeger guns do you see at most competitive shoots? I've NEVER seen one. Should tell even the most casual observer something .........

It wouldn't tell the casual observer squat if he knew anything about skeet. Trying to draw a line between what a competitive skeet shooter shoots and saying that's what represents a good hunting shotgun is about the dumbest thing I've ever read. A true competition skeet gun isn't the best choice for hunting, it's about the worst. Obviously you aren't going to see any Stoegers at a competitive shoot. You aren't going to see any Ford F-150s in the Indy 500 either.

I don't know what kind of Hicksville skeet comps you're seeing where guys are showing up with Grandpappy's 870. Are the high rounds in the upper teens? The competitive skeet shooters I know shoot specialized O/Us that relative to the common field guns today are heavy, longer barreled, open choked, ported, and stocked specifically for skeet. They will all readily admit that a competition gun of any kind is about the worst possible choice for ANY live bird shooting or any other kind of hunting.

Only thing anyone with any brains can learn about hunting shotguns by watching a real skeet competition is what NOT to use for hunting.

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Originally Posted By: tugboaterOriginally Posted By: SlickerThanSnot
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Yes I do have a Stoeger in the gun safe collecting dust on the count of its s piece of dog s###!!!! I'm an avid upland hunter and have shot lots of rounds through lots of shotguns. My go to is the Berreta a400 and a 1938 Lc Smith field grade 12 gauge.


Originally Posted By: SlickerThanSnotwhat model tug? what is wrong with it?

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Quote:Yes I do have a Stoeger and I'm not sure the model #.

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I do shoot a 28 gauge CZ Ringneck SxS. Bought it for a retirement gift to myself in 07. I've killed a lot of doves so that means I have shot more than a few shells through it. I don't hit them all. So far no parts breakage. I doubt I'll ever stress it to the ten thousand level soon. Only about 2500 through it so far. My 12 gauge Citori has way more than that but that ultra-light CZ sure is a joy to carry vs the big Browning.

A fellow shoots what he is comfortable with. If it fills the bill so be it. If it lasts great. If not then a learning experience has occurred either way.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: The Famous GrouseOriginally Posted By: Hidalgo
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Since you shoot competitively, how many Stoeger guns do you see at most competitive shoots? I've NEVER seen one. Should tell even the most casual observer something .........

It wouldn't tell the casual observer squat if he knew anything about skeet. Trying to draw a line between what a competitive skeet shooter shoots and saying that's what represents a good hunting shotgun is about the dumbest thing I've ever read. A true competition skeet gun isn't the best choice for hunting, it's about the worst. Obviously you aren't going to see any Stoegers at a competitive shoot. You aren't going to see any Ford F-150s in the Indy 500 either.

I don't know what kind of Hicksville skeet comps you're seeing where guys are showing up with Grandpappy's 870. Are the high rounds in the upper teens? The competitive skeet shooters I know shoot specialized O/Us that relative to the common field guns today are heavy, longer barreled, open choked, ported, and stocked specifically for skeet. They will all readily admit that a competition gun of any kind is about the worst possible choice for ANY live bird shooting or any other kind of hunting.

Only thing anyone with any brains can learn about hunting shotguns by watching a real skeet competition is what NOT to use for hunting.

Grouse




You're preaching to the choir. I KNOW they aren't there. But Reaper says he shoots competitively, and I was trying to prove a point. And I didn't say SKEET competitions. YOU put that in the mix. There are sporting clays and 5 stand that some folks prefer a "hunting" gun for those styles. One guy at our club will clean you out on the clays course with an Ithaca lightweight ... and that surely isn't a skeet gun. We have been shooting competitive skeet for 4 years ..... I understand what the proper gun consists of.
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Enough for me. This has gone from informational all the way into a calamity.
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Only thing I can say is ask real gun owners about specific firearms not people that have never held one. Remington is a good option for a good field gun on a decent budget. But be mindful that you might want to keep some extra orings on you....might Ned them
 
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