COpredator
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I have a savage model 12 fv that i want to re-barrel with a 1 in 9 twist. My question is, who has one and how do you like it? I was wanting to shoot the 75gr a-max and possibly the 75gr berger
Anyone have a fast twist 22-250?
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I've got a 700 rem with a 9 twist in 22-250 & I love it!!! I shoot the 75 a-max at around 3200 fps. Have shot steel out to 886 yds & killed a coyote at 630yds.... Groundhog head shot at 400....it's a hammer... The heavy bullets and high bc's really make the cartridge long range capable. I've also used the 70 gr. Barnes tsx in mine on whitetails with great results. I'd say go for it, what's not to like?
Good luck,
RB9
Good luck,
RB9
derbyacresbob
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I have a Rem 700, 22-250 with a 1-8" twist Hart barrel on it. I had this barrel put on it so I could shoot lead free bullets out of it.
It shoots very tight groups with the Barnes 55 gr MPG and 62 gr TTSX bullets.
It shoots very tight groups with the Barnes 55 gr MPG and 62 gr TTSX bullets.
I have two 8 twist 22-250AI's they both shoot the 75 & 80gr Amax very well, I am moving them at 3300 I can get a bit more but that is where the best accuracy was. I would think about going with the Improved version for one thing you will never have to trim your brass again or at least only once I have some brass that has been loaded 5 times still doesent need trimmed.
You will also pick up some more velocity which doesnt hurt either
You will also pick up some more velocity which doesnt hurt either
tractorman
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I concur with Rich, I would like to go that route one day as well. Have a 22-243 being built right now for the same purpose. I think the McGowen outlet keeps fast twist 22-250AIs in stock last time I looked.
COpredator
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Skinney, i some how forced myself through the video to get the info i was looking for, i have seen some of your other video's and i am very impressed to say the least. Thanks for all the input fella's, i have some decision making to do. Hopefully have it up and running in a month
skinney
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Originally Posted By: COpredatorSkinney, i some how forced myself through the video to get the info i was looking for, i have seen some of your other video's and i am very impressed to say the least.
LOL... Thanks, hope you get your build done soon, be sure and post up some pics when your done!!!
LOL... Thanks, hope you get your build done soon, be sure and post up some pics when your done!!!
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I put a 28in Shilen 1in8 twist 22-243Win barrel on my Savage FV and like it a lot. Coyote last year at 815yds with 80gr Berger VLD's.
I'd have gone with a larger caliber for long range stuff if I was allowed but the laws restrict us to .22 centerfires.
Wind is the killer, very seldom it's not a gusting wind here and can be blocked once or twice on the way out to the target as well.
I'd have gone with a larger caliber for long range stuff if I was allowed but the laws restrict us to .22 centerfires.
Wind is the killer, very seldom it's not a gusting wind here and can be blocked once or twice on the way out to the target as well.
SAXD9
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Originally Posted By: COpredatorI have a savage model 12 fv that i want to re-barrel with a 1 in 9 twist. My question is, who has one and how do you like it? I was wanting to shoot the 75gr a-max and possibly the 75gr berger
My 12FV was a factory 1-12 twist and would shoot anything I wanted including 5.56 NATO.
My 12FV was a factory 1-12 twist and would shoot anything I wanted including 5.56 NATO.
SuperSeal110
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If you don't have any 75gr Amax on hand, good luck finding any in stock.
My buddy has a stock, Savage 22-250 FV and it's a hammer with 75gr amax. I didn't believe it till I seen him shoot a group at 100yds.
My buddy has a stock, Savage 22-250 FV and it's a hammer with 75gr amax. I didn't believe it till I seen him shoot a group at 100yds.
I don't understand fast twist 22-250 rifles, in my opinion their strength is with slow twist barrels pushing small projectiles at light speed, in my opinion, if you want use a fast twist 22-250, a 243 becomes a much more viable option, a better range of projectiles, traditionally with better ballistic co-efficients than .224's, as well as this, you have a better "range" ie, varmint, target, medium game, bonded, etc.
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
Originally Posted By: Jacko9I don't understand fast twist 22-250 rifles, in my opinion their strength is with slow twist barrels pushing small projectiles at light speed, in my opinion, if you want use a fast twist 22-250, a 243 becomes a much more viable option, a better range of projectiles, traditionally with better ballistic co-efficients than .224's, as well as this, you have a better "range" ie, varmint, target, medium game, bonded, etc.
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
The BC is exactly why fast 22s do make sense.
As an example..
69 gr 224 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .301
70 gr 243 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .259
Now, having said that, I do like both aspects of a 22-250 (or other larger capacity 22) small bullets at great speeds are great. But so are wind bucking high BCs at still good speeds. Just my opinion on this. They both have their place.
Originally Posted By: skinneyHere you go.
This platform runs the 50 VMAX's @ .25" @ 100yds and the 69SMK's @ .25" @ 100yds, great platform, I go into detail about the barrel and twist somewhere in the vid, if you can get by boring stuff
I see a project for Chad Dixon in my future. I've talked to a couple other guys who have had work done by him. All of it is rather impressive. Of course, your skills behind the rifle aren't lacking, either.
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
The BC is exactly why fast 22s do make sense.
As an example..
69 gr 224 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .301
70 gr 243 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .259
Now, having said that, I do like both aspects of a 22-250 (or other larger capacity 22) small bullets at great speeds are great. But so are wind bucking high BCs at still good speeds. Just my opinion on this. They both have their place.
Originally Posted By: skinneyHere you go.
This platform runs the 50 VMAX's @ .25" @ 100yds and the 69SMK's @ .25" @ 100yds, great platform, I go into detail about the barrel and twist somewhere in the vid, if you can get by boring stuff
I see a project for Chad Dixon in my future. I've talked to a couple other guys who have had work done by him. All of it is rather impressive. Of course, your skills behind the rifle aren't lacking, either.
CatShooter
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Originally Posted By: pahntr760Originally Posted By: Jacko9I don't understand fast twist 22-250 rifles, in my opinion their strength is with slow twist barrels pushing small projectiles at light speed, in my opinion, if you want use a fast twist 22-250, a 243 becomes a much more viable option, a better range of projectiles, traditionally with better ballistic co-efficients than .224's, as well as this, you have a better "range" ie, varmint, target, medium game, bonded, etc.
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
The BC is exactly why fast 22s do make sense.
As an example..
69 gr 224 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .301
70 gr 243 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .259
Now, having said that, I do like both aspects of a 22-250 (or other larger capacity 22) small bullets at great speeds are great. But so are wind bucking high BCs at still good speeds. Just my opinion on this. They both have their place.
Originally Posted By: skinneyHere you go.
This platform runs the 50 VMAX's @ .25" @ 100yds and the 69SMK's @ .25" @ 100yds, great platform, I go into detail about the barrel and twist somewhere in the vid, if you can get by boring stuff
I see a project for Chad Dixon in my future. I've talked to a couple other guys who have had work done by him. All of it is rather impressive. Of course, your skills behind the rifle aren't lacking, either.
I think, in live varmint shooting, that the virtues of "wind bucking, is highly over rated.
If you are shooting in matches, you have wind flags (maybe hundreds of them), sighters are allowed, then you can adjust for local wind conditions, and have some control over it - and if there is change in the wind, the effect of it is less with a high BC bullet, then a lesser BC bullet... and it is an advantage.
But in the field, where you have no control over the conditions, no wind flags, no sighters (unless you count misses
).. then the effect of a higher BC bullet is not that important.
If you have a groundhog at 600 yds, and a 3 o'clock wind at 10 mph. You don't get sighters. Wind drift is in the 4 foot range with the heavies (75 to 80 grain) and 5 foot range with the "normals (55 SBKs).
But the allowable miss distance is 5 inches on a standing ground hog.. So the disadvantage of "wind bucking" is somewhat over rated, when you consider that the heavy bullets have thicker jackets that are prone to punch through,, give much faster throat wear, compared, faster, more fragile bullets, with longer barrel life.
Proponents of either are hard fast iin their belief - but I would chose a large, fast 224 with a 12" twist anytime, oer a 7 or 8 inch twist.
If the 12" twist 22-250 or .220 Swift won't do it, I will go up to a 6mm.
Unless you have wind meters across
Just one mans opinion.
Regards,
Jackson.
The BC is exactly why fast 22s do make sense.
As an example..
69 gr 224 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .301
70 gr 243 Dia Sierra Match King BC of .259
Now, having said that, I do like both aspects of a 22-250 (or other larger capacity 22) small bullets at great speeds are great. But so are wind bucking high BCs at still good speeds. Just my opinion on this. They both have their place.
Originally Posted By: skinneyHere you go.
This platform runs the 50 VMAX's @ .25" @ 100yds and the 69SMK's @ .25" @ 100yds, great platform, I go into detail about the barrel and twist somewhere in the vid, if you can get by boring stuff
I see a project for Chad Dixon in my future. I've talked to a couple other guys who have had work done by him. All of it is rather impressive. Of course, your skills behind the rifle aren't lacking, either.
I think, in live varmint shooting, that the virtues of "wind bucking, is highly over rated.
If you are shooting in matches, you have wind flags (maybe hundreds of them), sighters are allowed, then you can adjust for local wind conditions, and have some control over it - and if there is change in the wind, the effect of it is less with a high BC bullet, then a lesser BC bullet... and it is an advantage.
But in the field, where you have no control over the conditions, no wind flags, no sighters (unless you count misses
If you have a groundhog at 600 yds, and a 3 o'clock wind at 10 mph. You don't get sighters. Wind drift is in the 4 foot range with the heavies (75 to 80 grain) and 5 foot range with the "normals (55 SBKs).
But the allowable miss distance is 5 inches on a standing ground hog.. So the disadvantage of "wind bucking" is somewhat over rated, when you consider that the heavy bullets have thicker jackets that are prone to punch through,, give much faster throat wear, compared, faster, more fragile bullets, with longer barrel life.
Proponents of either are hard fast iin their belief - but I would chose a large, fast 224 with a 12" twist anytime, oer a 7 or 8 inch twist.
If the 12" twist 22-250 or .220 Swift won't do it, I will go up to a 6mm.
Unless you have wind meters across
Warboar_21
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Originally Posted By: pahntr760
Jacko9 said: