Anyone using a Blackhawk Knoxx stock on a Mossy 500?

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mutthunter

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I just had a customer offer to trade me a Mossy 500 12g with a Blackhawk Knoxx stock in-lue of cash. I'm not a Mossberg fan, but it seems like a pretty good deal for me, might make a nice truck gun or something. The trade is for about $300-$375 worth of my labor, and he's including the factory stock as well. I handled the gun a little and it is in like-new condition, I don't even think it's been fired (if it has, he does a way better job of cleaning than I do... but that's not tough to do).

Is it worth it? And, if so, how's the Blackhawk stock? I've heard that the BHawk stocks tend to slap the crap out of ya on a remmy 870, but never a report on the Mossy. Any thoughts?
 
One of my shotguns is a Mossy 500. The factory stock will whop you too, no experience with a blackhawk stock.

IMO Price is OK if it's about new and you like the aftermarket stock. Otherwise you'll find used 500's for less.
 
I run one on my 870, so it's not the exact same gun, but about as close as you can get for coming from two different companies.

If it's the "recoil reducing" stock, then that's a steal. It would have a spring in the pistol grip, and a spring in the butt so it actually lets the barreled action float with recoil. It claims like 90% recoil reduction or something, but that's a bold statement. It's probably closer to like 40-50% which is still awesome.

If you're not sure, you can tell by UNLOADING the gun, first.
Put the muzzle into the floor and press down on the butt with your shoulder. It should flex a solid 1-2 inches. It's tight enough that it will probably take a fair bit of body weight though.

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Same here, I have one on my 870 and it is hard to beat. You wont believe how much fun it is to shoot the heaviest 3" magnums or slugs. Shells that would normally rattle my teeth and cause pain I don't give a second thought. It is even more comfortable to shoot with the Power Pak cheek rest thing.
 
I'm not positive it's the recoil reducing model. He said he got because he'd had some sort of surgery and shooting 12g was beating him up too much, so I'd assume it is. Thanx for the heads up. I'll double check before we seal the deal. I think I'll do it even if it's not. It's hard for me to pass up any gun I don't have to give up cash for (meaning- a new gun my wife doesn't know about...).

Thanx guys
 

This is my Mossberg 590A1 3in chamber.

Mesa Tactical LEO Telescoping Stock Adapter with a Enidine hydraulic recoil buffer.
Carlson add choke tubes, shown with breacher choke. I have cylinder, rifled and XX full tubes.
Magpul Forearm / CCA buttstock with 5 round carrier.
Bushnell scope / Circle and cross.

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Originally Posted By: mutthunterIt's hard for me to pass up any gun I don't have to give up cash for (meaning- a new gun my wife doesn't know about...).

Thanx guys

Good reasoning! I just ordered a 243 from another FFL, sent me a 30-06 by mistake. Called him "I'll keep it but send the 243 too"
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I had one that I added the Blackhawk stock to
I turkey hunted with it and the 3 and 3 1/2 would flat stomp you
Kicked harder than any gun I ever shot
The Blackhawk recoil reduction helped a lot

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Originally Posted By: willy1947
This is my Mossberg 590A1 3in chamber.

Mesa Tactical LEO Telescoping Stock Adapter with a Enidine hydraulic recoil buffer.
Carlson add choke tubes, shown with breacher choke. I have cylinder, rifled and XX full tubes.
Magpul Forearm / CCA buttstock with 5 round carrier.
Bushnell scope / Circle and cross.

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590A12_zpse761a863.jpg

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How do you like the Bushy scope. I was thinking of using that or a Vortex SPARC(I think it was the SPARC, I looked at a zillion of em and can't remember which was which now)
 
Well, things have changed a bit. I went back and finished up the job. It was easier and much faster than we thought it would be. I didn't feel like it was worth the gun we'd talked about, but still wanted to do some horse trading (so did he). I ended up taking a different 500 from him. It's a 500AG with an 18in barrel, and a Phoenix Technology forearm and recoil reducing adjustable stock. It's lightly used, but in great shape.

My only gripes are that the receiver isn't drilled n tapped for an optics mount, and the barrel seems a little short for a yote gun and isn't threaded for a choke. A new barrel is an obvious easy fix, but I'm not too sure about the optics mount. I did a little research, and it looks like there's a few different options for over-the-receiver type mounts, or I could just take it in and have the receiver drilled and tapped for a pic rail. What do you guys recommend, keeping in mind that I'd like to keep costs and hassle down to a minimum.

Also, any thoughts on this Phoenix Tech stock. It doesn't seem as nice as the Blackhawk or Mesa stuff, but hopefully it'll be passable.
 
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I believe that there are Mossy replacement shotty bbls out there in smoothbore, int. chokes and have a cantilever mount on them already?? Would solve all your issues in one fell swoop for probably less $$ than the alternatives. And you'd still have the 18 incher for HD. Just a thought.

I have a rifled slug bbl for a 500 somewhere around here if you'd be interested.
 
Willy- I'm thinking I might end up going that way. I was hoping to find something DYI but I'd prefer to avoid the whole over the receiver mount etc. I'll give a call to my smith and find out what it'll run me vs. a bolt on type.
Mike B- I'll check into it. Is there one you've used that you'd recommend? If you find that extra bbl shoot me a PM, if the price is right, I might be interested.

Any thoughts on this Phoenix Tech stock? I doubt I'll have time to even give it a shake down for a week or two. Just wondering what to expect.
 
Originally Posted By: jrcampbellHow do you guys like the combo of the tang safe and pistol grip stocks?
I haven't even had time to shoot it yet. But while practicing shouldering it in the garage, the safety did seem pretty awkward. I doubt it'll make any difference for my intended use, but I don't think I'd like it for a HD gun.
 
How about this Phoenix Tech stock? I'd never even heard of it, sounds like no one else has either. It's fairly comfy to shoulder, but it seems like the spring isn't all that stiff. I can't imagine it making a big difference... So... Does it?
 


The Enidine hydraulic recoil buffer take most of the kick out of the shotgun. The other stocks just uses springs not hydraulics like the shocks on you car. We tried the Knoxx at my local PD It just kicks your face on the rebound. The Enidine has a damper effect because it is hydraulic. My set up is not cheap but it works. My Mossberg makes only one barrel for the 590A1 that is why I had to have tubes installed. The 590A1 is the only shotgun to meet military spec's.
 
Originally Posted By: willy1947

The Enidine hydraulic recoil buffer take most of the kick out of the shotgun. The other stocks just uses springs not hydraulics like the shocks on you car. We tried the Knoxx at my local PD It just kicks your face on the rebound. The Enidine has a damper effect because it is hydraulic. My set up is not cheap but it works. My Mossberg makes only one barrel for the 590A1 that is why I had to have tubes installed. The 590A1 is the only shotgun to meet military spec's.






I think this Phoenix Tactical stock is going to have the same "slap in the face" as the Knoxx does. The angle of the cheek weld vs the bore alone suggests issues. I looked at the Mesa High tube kit with buffer etc, but you're not kidding, that's not a cheap set-up. But it's easy to see why you guys who are active duty, LE, etc would want it. Some of the videos I found make 12g look like 22lr!(almost;)) The Mesa kit is now on my wish list... It just may take while...

I should have a little time to run this one tomorrow. Range reports to come. I'm hoping that it'll at least make for a good stick to leave under the seat of my old Blazer.






 
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If it's got a modified choke try some of the Hornady coyote ammo and see how it groups before messing with chokes.

As for the stock.. I changed out my mossy 535 stock for the Black hawk and it's made a huge difference. Shooting the buck shot shells now feels like the regular bird shot. (at worst) and I tried one of those same shells in another gun with a regular stock and then said that stock with the recoil system was worth it.
 


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