Anyone using a burris fullfield II

Originally Posted By: LawleyHi guys FYI the Nikon Monarch and the Fullfield II offer the same light transmission in the optics (95%) The Fullfield II being at a more cost effect price point. Kind of a no brainer.

Ah actually its not a no brainer, scope makers can put any number on paper for light transmission since its all based on their own research and testing. There is no industry standard testing procedures on scopes. Meaning you can claim 95% light transmission thru a coke bottle, so a 40 dollar Barska or Tasco could claim 95% at a cheaper price point than either the Nikon or Burris, does that make it a no brainer too?
 
Hey wait just a second, Darby!
Are you implying that the information I read in magazine ads or watch on a TV commercials may be 'massaged' for nothing more than marketing hype?


THIS PART spilled over from the other thread


What's a shooter to do then?

You mean I actually have to BUY a scope and LOOK through it?
Mount it on a rifle & SHOOT through it, even! OH MY GOSH!
But if I mount it, then I may marr the finish with the dreaded 'ring marks' and the Customer Service Dept. won't let me return it!

Heaven forbid I take that big of a risk without a 100% ironclad, bulletproof independant lab test that PROVES that this scope IS what the commercial says it is!

Then if is isn't, I can SUE the company 'cause they LIED to me!

THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN


 
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I have 5 ff2 and one signiture brother has 5 ff2 and dad has 1 ff2. Knock on wood I have not had any trouble with mine or my dad's. Brother has had only one that he had to send back. They fixed it at NC and sent it back to him quickly. I would reccommend them at anytime.
 
Burris scopes have worked real well for me......probably 15 or 16 and only one ever sent in for repair, for something that was my own fault. Three or 4 of them are FFII 4.5-14 with balplex reticle. A good reticle and a very good scope. Side by side with a Monarch 5.5-16.5, I don't see any optical difference. However the Monarch eye relief is very critical, the Burris isn't. The FFII eyepiece/zoom adjustment is a minor gripe. I use Burris lens caps, but a flip open can be positioned where it works ok. I have a couple really excellent B&L pre-Elite scopes with that same zoom/eyepiece design. Several years ago people thought the Bushnell Scopechief was so great, it has the same thing. And there've been others. I'd rather have a separate zoom ring, but it's not a big deal and it wouldn't keep me from buying another one.
 
Originally Posted By: FurhunterOriginally Posted By: Merritt79Thanks for the replies. Now is just the the FFII that just have that problem or is all of burris scopes have that problem with the eyepiece?

The problem I see is the eyepiece of the Fullfield II scopes, or any of their scopes that use the eyepiece as the power adjustment. For me at least with the experience I have had, I prefer the power adjustment to be separate from the eyepiece. Anyone who wants to try it, just put your rifle on a rest, look thru the scope and wiggle the eyepiece at the same time. Some of mine were not as bad as others but none of them are as good as a scope that has a lock nut for the eyepiece and a separate power ring.

More detail,
I couldnt keep my XTR zeroed and I found the problem at the range one afternoon. I sent it in with a little note telling them my problem. About a month later I called and asked about my scope. I then somehow got into a pissing match with the tech in the service dept. He said the scope was fine as is. I told him the problem and suddenly it was my rifle, my shooting, the ammo etc. not the eyepiece. While he admitted it was loose, I told him to fix it and send it to me. The scope arrived with a noticeably tighter eyepiece and believe it or not, it held zero. Some may argue on wether a loose eyepiece can effect POI down range, I have solid experience that on at least one scope that it very much so made a difference. Knowing the scope was then good after the repair.... I traded it and wont be looking to buy another. I went back and found this thread to give an update on my Burris FFII. I had time today to do some more shooting with it today and just couldn`t get it to group with a darn using same load that I could cover 5rnds with a dime at 100yrd.I wiggled the eyepiece remembering your experience, and sure enough I could move the POI about 3" circle. Man talk about discouraged.Now it will sit in the locker for who knows how long...at least the R25 in .243 Win. still shoots that well with its Nikon.I will give Leupold a try next...I`m so disgusted maybe I will take a second mortgage on the residence and buy a Nightforce or Swear-off-ski.
 
I've owned some Burris scopes off and on over the years and never had any trouble with them. I have a newer Burris Fullfield II 2x7x35mm with the German reticle and it seems like a nice scope for the money. I don't like the design to change magnification but that isn't the end of the world either. Overall for the price so far I have no complaints about the little Burris. The Nikon Monarch is at a different price point isn't it? If I were going to spend that much over the Burris FII then I would be looking at other scopes than the less expensive Burris.
 
I have/use seven FF2 BPs.

1 MATTE 2x-7x
3 MATTE 3x-9x
2 MATTE 4.5x-14x
1 TACT 4.5x-14x

All work great in every aspect for me. I like the variable power control.
 
GC and DoubleCK, I was real happy with my FFII untill I slipped and fell on the ice. I sent it back and it was returned prompty. I think it will never be the same now. Perhaps the impact pulled the threads some on the power seting / eyepiece? It seems to take a bit to make it wiggle that 3" circle, I dont know if the recoil could make it move like it is or not? It would still work fine for hunting purpose I suppose, but it bugs me out I cant make it shoot 5 rounds 100yards at least touching.Like it did before.Oh well I`ll quit sniveling now.
 
I have three FFII's and have no troubles at all grouping. One of them has taken some spills and has yet to lose zero.

Hooked,
Since Burris now has a presence on this site, and seems to care enough to make significant changes in their customer service department, maybe you should consider pm'ing them and bring this thread to their attention. Or pm them and tell them your story, see what they recommend.

user name: Burris Optics

Just a thought...
 
I have two 4.5-14, three 3X9 FFII's and a 2x7 Signature. All hold zero fine and track perfectly. No movement of ocular lens and crosshairs (zero) remain stable when power ring rotated.

Not real crazy about the focus ring and power ring being one unit; found that I inadvertently change the focus over time the way I grab the power ring to change power . Resolved that problem by putting a couple of index dots w/fingernail polish at 12 o'clock on the power ring & focus ring so that I notice if it is rotated. Other than that minor inconvenience, no complaints.

Regards,
hm
 
I don't have a fullfield II, but gent who usually sits at shooting bench next to me about every Sunday morning has two of them. Both 4.5-14 FFII. A few months ago he'd taken one off his favorite hunting rifle, a 300 win mag, and put it on a new rifle to work up hunting loads. Never could get a consistently tight group with the rifle....then he discovered its internals had a problem and sent it off to Burris. Took his other FFII off another rifle and put it on the rifle and had same problem of lack of consistent groups....the second Burris also had an internal problem. First scope Burris replaced with a new scope since it was beyond repair, second scope was repaired. Each scope took about 3 weeks to get back. Guy kinda happy it was the scopes and not the $1300 rifle being the problem.
 
Originally Posted By: cornstalker

Hooked,
Since Burris now has a presence on this site, and seems to care enough to make significant changes in their customer service department, maybe you should consider pm'ing them and bring this thread to their attention. Or pm them and tell them your story, see what they recommend.



CS, thanks for pointing out that we're here. I've already sent him a PM.
 
Thanks, I did get the message.I feel confident that things will work out.I was not aware Burris Optics was now a sponsor so thanks to both PredatorMasters too.
 
I have 3 Burris FFII scopes, all pre "Made in the Phillipines" and mounted on rifles from 300 Winmag down to a Ruger 10/22. For a $200 I figure they are the best deal going. Never had a problem with them and the Ballistic plex is especially nice for the longer shots.
 
Originally Posted By: FurhunterOriginally Posted By: Merritt79Thanks for the replies. Now is just the the FFII that just have that problem or is all of burris scopes have that problem with the eyepiece?

The problem I see is the eyepiece of the Fullfield II scopes, or any of their scopes that use the eyepiece as the power adjustment. For me at least with the experience I have had, I prefer the power adjustment to be separate from the eyepiece. Anyone who wants to try it, just put your rifle on a rest, look thru the scope and wiggle the eyepiece at the same time. Some of mine were not as bad as others but none of them are as good as a scope that has a lock nut for the eyepiece and a separate power ring.

More detail,
I couldnt keep my XTR zeroed and I found the problem at the range one afternoon. I sent it in with a little note telling them my problem. About a month later I called and asked about my scope. I then somehow got into a pissing match with the tech in the service dept. He said the scope was fine as is. I told him the problem and suddenly it was my rifle, my shooting, the ammo etc. not the eyepiece. While he admitted it was loose, I told him to fix it and send it to me. The scope arrived with a noticeably tighter eyepiece and believe it or not, it held zero. Some may argue on wether a loose eyepiece can effect POI down range, I have solid experience that on at least one scope that it very much so made a difference. Knowing the scope was then good after the repair.... I traded it and wont be looking to buy another.

Darb.....but anyone who knows you knows that a decent scope to you means $1000. No wonder you weren't happy with the $200 Burris
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Honestly I had the same problem with the eye piece on a Burris Signature. Threads were a loose fit to the eye piece. Burris replaced the scope no problem.
 


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