AR-15 Calling Rifle Possible Specs

NewDogSniper

NewDogSniper

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Hey, building a calling gun and want to hear opinions on these specs and choices.

The Dream,

Lower:
Stag or DPMS Lower
Normal Parts Kit + Trigger Job
A2 Buttstock

Upper:
Wilson Chrome Moly Barrel
16 Inch ( Seen Here Under Barrels )
1/9 Twist
A2 Flash Hider -(Anything Better for Cheap?)
Free Float Aluminum Tube -(Figure it will help Accuracy)
Forged RRA A4 Upper (Flat Top)
Complete Charging Handle and Bolt Carrier Group
Misc Flip up rear sight (until I buy a scope)

Will a 5.56 chamber shoot 223 accurate?

Thanks For Checkin this Out,
Please Give Opinions!
 
Unless you're expecting to go to combat, the chrome moly may not be the most accurate. I would look at the stainless instead and would definately get 1-8" twist if available. The RRA uppers are Wylde Chambers which accept both 223/5.56. I would also ditch the flash hider or any brake ideas, maybe consider an 18" varmint with heavy fluting to reduce weight. Dan Carey from Carey custom rifles or Mike Milli from Dtech could probably build you exactly what you're looking for and get it to you right the first time saving you money in the long run. I have seen lots of the Dtech uppers on here and he does a really aggressive fluting that would be great for a calling gun. Either of those fellows should be able to work a trigger for you as well. I wish I had known about this site and these sponsors before I did my rifle, it would have been different for sure /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.
 
In the same boat DogSniper. I've got a DSC lower sitting here begging to be a calling rig. I've been browsing the likely sites and still don't quite know where to go.

SDvmnt's JT lightweight build Here looks really close to what you've got listed (Less the ACE). I'm soo close to going that route.

I'm leaning towards ARCorys recommendation for my build. I really think an 18" is the way to go but there is not much out there unless you drop big $$$ for WOA or Sabre.
I've been trying to spec out a mid-length upper w/18" fluted but I haven't had much luck. Still saving up coin so maybe something will turn up before long.
 
ive messed around with Ars/ M16/ m4s for a while, unless your looking at a tactical look, ditch the flash hider. Just a noise maker, the military uses them to reduce muzzle fclimb/flip, so unless u got a triburst i would worry about it. One option if u might be the krink, google it. if u get the threaded barrel u can always get a thread protector if u think u migh twant to put somethin on there later. I settled on a 16 in barrel which is the standard diameter but turns into a 1" BB under the free floating HG. teh free floating hand guard is a must for a varmint rifle. i also put a bottom picatinny rail for accessories, i use a vertical grip and recommend it. ITs a DPMS rifle, very accurate shooter, just make sure u get an after market trigger, im a single stage guy for hunting.-tj
 
Go as light as you can, you dont need a heavy barrel on a calling rifle. If you have to have a brake/flash supressor, go with a DPMS linear, it directs everything away from you and not to the sides.
 
I built a LWT AR just for predator hunting. The barrel is a 16" match grade LWT barrel that I ordered in a J&T kit. It is .625 in diameter for just about the whole length of the barrel. Of course, this is from the chamber forward. This eliminates any need for fluting and any unnecessary weight is eliminated. I added a float tube and modified the front sight to my own preference. A collapsable stock completes the package. It's light, accurate and easy to handle. MI VHNTR
 
+1 for going the light weight route. I purchased a Bushmaster Varminter last year for P-Doggin and as a calling rifle, and at about 11 pounds it can get to a real pain to lug around. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif My next AR will probably basically based on some sort of "tactical" model. I also like the idea of a collapsable stock, you can collapse the stock for moving around and also customize it when you get set up if you need to.
 
flattop receiver
16" Hbar contour barrel
Hogue OM carbine handguard
4 rail gas block
Timney single stage trigger
ACE skeleton stock
Leupold Mark IV 1.5-5x20 scope
LaRue SPR-e mount
Norrel's moly finish


That's just what I was thinkin' would work for me... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
i am building my first ar right now. i got all my parts from this sight and ar15.com . except for the barrel . i got that on gunbrokers.com. i got the bolt and bolt carrier group from dtech .and a few other parts, he is a real help when it comes to ar's .i had some concerns about the head space . mike said if i send it to him and pay for the shipping back he would head space it for me. what a great help . this is my 3rd. ar my first is a d-tech 204. and after i ordered that one from mike i got the itch and bought a upper from here and built my first lower for it. if you are still looking for the barrel i would go with a 18 . and like others said flute it and skip on the flash hider. the rest sound good.i just put a rra two stage trigger on my 204 and it makes it a lot better to shoot. it was money well spent
icebox
 
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I think some clarification is in order:

A flash suppressor does just what it is named, with varying degrees of effectiveness.

A muzzle brake is designed to reduce recoil and/or muzzle rise, again to varying degrees. Muzzle breaks tend to increase muzzle blast, including noise and flash, often a LOT.

Both can have a negative impact on accuracy and maintainability depending on the individual components; how much these should concern you depends on what you want the AR for.
 
I will mostly be using this rifle for
Hogs, Coyotes, and Just shootin

I think the Flash suppressor will help for hunting at night. (Is this true)

I think that the 1/9 will let me shoot the cheap ammo accurate for fun, and I think a 65 grain bulet should take down a hog or a yote, again please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
The advantage of a bull barrel is better accuracy with high volume shooting, barrel heating has less effect. For hog hunting and calling it's probably not needed. The only disadvantage is having to carry a heavier rifle.
 
Go as light as possible..
I built an AR calling rifle last year using a Rock River lower fitted with a Timney trigger. I topped it with a 16" Double Star flattop lightweight upper with a 1-9 twist. It shoots 50 grain Remington HP's into an inch from the bench. It'll also shoot 55 grain Blackhills PSP's just as well. Plenty accurate for a yote gun. Handles great. Easy to carry around too. Before the Timney and scope I was in under $600.

Coyote6974
 
I am going to build my first AR soon, and I want a lightweight carry rifle, but I also don't want it to be real loud. Have heard that the 16 inch barrels are real loud, and that the 20's are better. Would the 20 be that much heavier? Or, how 'bout an 18? I don't really want a bull barrel, to save weight. What do you guys think??

kevlars
 
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I am going to build my first AR soon, and I want a lightweight carry rifle, but I also don't want it to be real loud. Have heard that the 16 inch barrels are real loud, and that the 20's are better. Would the 20 be that much heavier? Or, how 'bout an 18? I don't really want a bull barrel, to save weight. What do you guys think??

kevlars



The 16" bull I'm lookin at only brings the gun up to 7.9lbs minus the scope.

Is there an advantage to the 18" barrel?
 
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