ar mounting option question

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12vman

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does anybody make a rail mount that can mount on my flat top but that also has a 45 degree mount connected to it

I ask this cause i just saw one at the gunshop on a guys gun in which he had his scope mounted on top and a red dot mounted on the 45 but both mounts were one piece

this would be a mount that would mount on top of my present flattop mount/rail but has a 45 additional mount connected to it
 
Yankee Hill Machine make some 45 degree offset mounts... You might pull them up and see if they have what you want..
 
If you want to go the 45 degree offset route, you will want to
offset mount it forward of the ejection port, and ejection
port cover. Or use the mount that clamps to the scope body.
I am not fond of that system, since it puts stress on the scope
tube, and for me, it gives the rifle a top heavy feel.
I prefer the 45 degree mounts, that can be mounted forward of
the ejection port, but this requires a railed forearm.

FWIW, I started down this road, and decided the whole red dot
next to a scope is just another sight that can have issues.
I now have two 5 slot YHM 45 degree mounts, one behind the
scope, and one at the gas block end of a midlength quad rail
float tube, with Magpul MBUS flip up sights. So when things
are too close, and moving fast, for the 3-10x Bushnell Elite,
tip the rifle 45 degrees, lock on with the Magpuls, and the
target has a bad day.

Squeeze
 
Originally Posted By: Squeeze
I now have two 5 slot YHM 45 degree mounts, one behind the
scope, and one at the gas block end of a midlength quad rail
float tube, with Magpul MBUS flip up sights. So when things
are too close, and moving fast, for the 3-10x Bushnell Elite,
tip the rifle 45 degrees, lock on with the Magpuls, and the
target has a bad day.

Squeeze


Squeeze, do you have any pictures of that setup you can provide us?
 
Originally Posted By: rpc55Originally Posted By: Squeeze
I now have two 5 slot YHM 45 degree mounts, one behind the
scope, and one at the gas block end of a midlength quad rail
float tube, with Magpul MBUS flip up sights. So when things
are too close, and moving fast, for the 3-10x Bushnell Elite,
tip the rifle 45 degrees, lock on with the Magpuls, and the
target has a bad day.

Squeeze


Squeeze, do you have any pictures of that setup you can provide us?

Not at the moment, but I can try to get some in the next day
or two. Stay tuned.

Squeeze
 
A couple of points to make. First, you will want a scope with
generous eye relief, as to clear the rear sight, it has to
be a bit further forward than would be optimal. This can
be resolved by mounting both the rear, and front sight on
the side rail of the forearm. This shortens the sight
radius, but still plenty good for short range shooting.
And a relatively short length scope, is best, without
large target knobs on the side, to obstruct the sight
picture of the offset sights. The 3-10x Bushnell Elite 3200
compact fits this application well.

Squeeze

RLBSummer10036.jpg


Sights locked down, and in scope mode.

RLBSummer10040.jpg


Sights up, and in short range mode/

RLBSummer10037.jpg


Sight picture.
 
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Quote:wouldnt a simple red dot or halo be easier to mount on a 45?

Yeah, you would only have one mount and a single focus point (the target).

Try this idea and see what you think:

Get this Burris Fastfire II with the Picatinny mount

Burris Fastfire II

That's a pretty decent, small dot sight that self-adjusts illumination and weighs just under an ounce.

Then use the VIKING TACTICS ring mount (from link above)to hang it off the left side of the scope tube (if you tighten it to about 18 in. lbs. and Locktite the screws, it won't be any harder on the scope than the rings that are already on there).


Just make sure you have clearence to sandwich that ring without crashing into the turret or bells before you spend the money.
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I wouldn't even mess with the 45 degree idea, I'd go side-by-side.


Now you've got a "both eyes open" dot sight you can use without canting the rifle or changing your cheek weld (much, if any).
That sight will run fine mounted sideways, but it swaps the marked adjustments. U is now L, and vice-versa, and L is now D.


What do you think of that plan?
 
Originally Posted By: 12vmanwouldnt a simple red dot or halo be easier to mount on a 45?

Sure, but it is just weight if the battery dies. I have
a red-dot on a 45, and it has died. Then I just have a giant
ghost ring sight.
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And I can actually hold tighter
groups at 50 yards with fixed sights over a red-dot. Not that
much of a difference on coyote sized targets, but tighter none
the less. A fixed sight system never needs batteries, never
fogs up, and can take a beating and still hold zero.
Red-dot/Halo, not so much.

Squeeze
 
Quote:I ask this cause i just saw one at the gunshop on a guys gun in which he had his scope mounted on top and a red dot mounted on the 45 but both mounts were one piece


I've seen a picture of that mount posted on here before, if you're dead set on having one. I can't remember who builds it, but it does exist.

You might try looking on ARF and see if you can locate it.
 
What Lurker talked about is something that some military units are doing, or at least that is what one of the Trijicon guys said when he was talking about the new mini reflex sight they make.

I've also seen the combination mount described by the OP, but can't find it.
 
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