ar15 flash hider

Unfortunately the type of Flash Hider I bought does not use a crush washer. Just my luck huh?

I'll make one or just buy a upper receiver vice to hold the rifle in the metal vice while I put on the Advanced Armament Corp's Black Out Flash Hider. Heck I even buy the tool that they make to install the Flash Hider onto the barrel. My Ambush Firearms 5.56 AR15 comes with the end of the barrel already threaded. The rifle comes with a thread protector cap threaded onto the end of the barrel.

Yesterday I finally got the time and check out some U tube videos that showed how to build a AR15 upper. Now that I have an idea how the Ambush Firearms Modular Float 12" tube is attached to the upper receiver I'm sure I can easily put the flash hider onto my barrel.

But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). Since I can't get out and hunt right now (season is over and I don't have any private property to hunt) I plan on just going to the range to shoot more.

Normally this time of the year I'm totally thinking about fishing. But since I got my AR15 that's all I can think about. Besides it only about 20 deg F outside and the frost on my trucks windshield makes me stay inside where it's nice an warm.
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Come on spring!


Originally Posted By: bryan h Yes just buy a crush washer they are cheap why screw up a barrel for under $5.
 
"But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). "

A flash hider hides flash, a compensator keeps the barrel down, a muzzle brake helps to reduce felt recoil. Comps and brakes are LOUD (unless its a linear comp). IMO the only one worth having on an AR is the comp so you can see hits easier and quicker follow up shots. Battlecomp and Griffin are excellent, but they aren't cheap.
 
Originally Posted By: kpkiefer"But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). "

A flash hider hides flash, a compensator keeps the barrel down, a muzzle brake helps to reduce felt recoil. Comps and brakes are LOUD (unless its a linear comp). IMO the only one worth having on an AR is the comp so you can see hits easier and quicker follow up shots. Battlecomp and Griffin are excellent, but they aren't cheap.

The flash hider is for shooting at night without so much flash as to lose sight of the coyote at night. At least that was my thought at the time I bought the ACC flash hider.

But if I could get the flash hider/compensator it might be the best of both worlds.
 
Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Unfortunately the type of Flash Hider I bought does not use a crush washer. Just my luck huh?

I'll make one or just buy a upper receiver vice to hold the rifle in the metal vice while I put on the Advanced Armament Corp's Black Out Flash Hider. Heck I even buy the tool that they make to install the Flash Hider onto the barrel. My Ambush Firearms 5.56 AR15 comes with the end of the barrel already threaded. The rifle comes with a thread protector cap threaded onto the end of the barrel.

Yesterday I finally got the time and check out some U tube videos that showed how to build a AR15 upper. Now that I have an idea how the Ambush Firearms Modular Float 12" tube is attached to the upper receiver I'm sure I can easily put the flash hider onto my barrel.

But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). Since I can't get out and hunt right now (season is over and I don't have any private property to hunt) I plan on just going to the range to shoot more.

Normally this time of the year I'm totally thinking about fishing. But since I got my AR15 that's all I can think about. Besides it only about 20 deg F outside and the frost on my trucks windshield makes me stay inside where it's nice an warm.
smile.gif


Come on spring!


Originally Posted By: bryan h Yes just buy a crush washer they are cheap why screw up a barrel for under $5.



congratulations, you win the award for the most over thought non-problem of the year!
 
Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Originally Posted By: kpkiefer"But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). "

A flash hider hides flash, a compensator keeps the barrel down, a muzzle brake helps to reduce felt recoil. Comps and brakes are LOUD (unless its a linear comp). IMO the only one worth having on an AR is the comp so you can see hits easier and quicker follow up shots. Battlecomp and Griffin are excellent, but they aren't cheap.

The flash hider is for shooting at night without so much flash as to lose sight of the coyote at night. At least that was my thought at the time I bought the ACC flash hider.

But if I could get the flash hider/compensator it might be the best of both worlds.


To a point......a flash hider "may" help at night if that's what you want to do. A combo flash/comp is simply a compromise that sacrifices one to gain little on the other. I personally use comps when I'm not using a thread protector.

And again I'll add....if you're using a comp THAT WORKS as well the manufacturers claim (only a couple brands IMO) you'd better be putting in some ear plugs. For that reason, I only use comps at the range. When hunting if there isn't time to put the plugs in you'll regret having that comp on.
 
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Originally Posted By: josebdi have the a-2 flash hider,and i noticed the vents are up and down and the rest to the left,is this ok,or do they nedd to be more up or down?

The solid part of the flash hider on the bottom keeps you from having dust up during the day. The dust up will give up your hide. At night anyone can see the light of your flash. A flash hider moves the gases up in the air not to the ground.
 
Now I have another question. Does the compensator make the gun sound louder to the shooter? So that if you are hunting without ear plugs or muff it would be better to just shoot the rifle with the barrel thread protector on the end of the barrel and not have the compensator on?

And then future questions along the line of how a compensator increases the noise at the shooter position. Does a flash hider also increase the noise level at the shooters perspective?

The reason I asked the second question is because I wanted to use the FLASH HIDER for shooting at night while hunting in the field. So I need to know about the noise level and the need for wearing an electronic noise reduction muff. These muffs also amplify regular noise so that one can hear things better.

I'm at the point now that I'm almost ready to install a ACC Flash Hider on the end of the barrel of my Ambush Firearms rifle.



Originally Posted By: kpkieferOriginally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Originally Posted By: kpkiefer"But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). "

A flash hider hides flash, a compensator keeps the barrel down, a muzzle brake helps to reduce felt recoil. Comps and brakes are LOUD (unless its a linear comp). IMO the only one worth having on an AR is the comp so you can see hits easier and quicker follow up shots. Battlecomp and Griffin are excellent, but they aren't cheap.

The flash hider is for shooting at night without so much flash as to lose sight of the coyote at night. At least that was my thought at the time I bought the ACC flash hider.

But if I could get the flash hider/compensator it might be the best of both worlds.


To a point......a flash hider "may" help at night if that's what you want to do. A combo flash/comp is simply a compromise that sacrifices one to gain little on the other. I personally use comps when I'm not using a thread protector.

And again I'll add....if you're using a comp THAT WORKS as well the manufacturers claim (only a couple brands IMO) you'd better be putting in some ear plugs. For that reason, I only use comps at the range. When hunting if there isn't time to put the plugs in you'll regret having that comp on.
 
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Why thank you for the award.
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Originally Posted By: 6724Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Unfortunately the type of Flash Hider I bought does not use a crush washer. Just my luck huh?

I'll make one or just buy a upper receiver vice to hold the rifle in the metal vice while I put on the Advanced Armament Corp's Black Out Flash Hider. Heck I even buy the tool that they make to install the Flash Hider onto the barrel. My Ambush Firearms 5.56 AR15 comes with the end of the barrel already threaded. The rifle comes with a thread protector cap threaded onto the end of the barrel.

Yesterday I finally got the time and check out some U tube videos that showed how to build a AR15 upper. Now that I have an idea how the Ambush Firearms Modular Float 12" tube is attached to the upper receiver I'm sure I can easily put the flash hider onto my barrel.

But I'm not wondering if I got the right thing. AAC also makes a combo unit that's both a flash hider and a compensator. It's more expensive though. But I want to be able to shoot more accurately and have good groups (precision). Since I can't get out and hunt right now (season is over and I don't have any private property to hunt) I plan on just going to the range to shoot more.

Normally this time of the year I'm totally thinking about fishing. But since I got my AR15 that's all I can think about. Besides it only about 20 deg F outside and the frost on my trucks windshield makes me stay inside where it's nice an warm.
smile.gif


Come on spring!


Originally Posted By: bryan h Yes just buy a crush washer they are cheap why screw up a barrel for under $5.



congratulations, you win the award for the most over thought non-problem of the year!

 
Originally Posted By: Coyotehunter_Now I have another question. Does the compensator make the gun sound louder to the shooter? So that if you are hunting without ear plugs or muff it would be better to just shoot the rifle with the barrel thread protector on the end of the barrel and not have the compensator on?

And then future questions along the line of how a compensator increases the noise at the shooter position. Does a flash hider also increase the noise level at the shooters perspective?

The reason I asked the second question is because I wanted to use the FLASH HIDER for shooting at night while hunting in the field. So I need to know about the noise level and the need for wearing an electronic noise reduction muff. These muffs also amplify regular noise so that one can hear things better.

I'm at the point now that I'm almost ready to install a ACC Flash Hider on the end of the barrel of my Ambush Firearms rifle.


You're obviously not paying attention to my other posts so I guess I'll say it again. YES a comp or a brake makes it loud. VERY loud. A griffin or battlecomp "may" be tolerable for a single hunting shot....Something like a Miculek or a Titan not so much. A flash hider will probably make it slightly louder but may or may not be noticeable since you'll be deaf anyway.

Comps, brakes, hiders work by redirecting the gas out of the muzzle. They typically direct the gas up, and to the sides and back. Directing the gas up is what keeps your muzzle down and on target. Directing the gasses to the sides and back is what keeps felt recoil down. A flash hider will most likely direct gas up and to the sides also, but not to the extent of a comp or brake.

This also means that you're redirecting SOUND to the sides and back, and it's LOUD.

For example.....I have a comp/brake combo that works extremely well. I can see hit's plain as day at 300 yards, my rifle moves as much as a .22lr when shot. However, the percussion, concussion, pressure wave...whatever you want to call it is pretty much unbearable. The range I go to is 2 benches side by side about 4-5 ft apart and has a tin roof over the shooting benches. When I have that comp/brake on....it will blow stuff off the bench next to me. I can also feel the pressure wave bouncing off the tin roof above me and coming back and hitting me in the top of the head. That thing will rattle your teeth out........

If you buy something and don't like it, just take the thing off. It takes literally 1 minute to change muzzle accessories...............
 
Unless you have a suppressor, you should always wear hearing protection even if only shooting .22lr. Anything bigger is a definite yes or you WILL suffer hearing loss. Flash hider shouldn't increase the sound, brakes/comps do. Flash hider for hunting/night shooting, brakes/comps for precision/target shooting. Just tighten any of them on with a crush washer and you are good. This shouldn't be this difficult and long winded.
 
I thought that you said it would make it louder. I was just double checking to make sure. So I really was paying attention.

I use electronic ear muff that cancel sounds over 85 Db but let me hear people talking.

The range I go to also have three shooting benches real close to each other. And it also has a tin roof over all three benches. So it get's loud. I'm good to go when bench rest shooting.

What I'm thinking about and worried about is hunting at night. I'm not worried about anyone else seeing the flash of my rifle. I just don't want it to blind me when shooting my rifle at night. So I'm concerned from what I see from the shooters point of view only.

I'll probably just wear ear muff when hunting too. That should solve any excessive noise problem.

I ended up buying a barrel vise from Brownells. It will let me work on the end of the barrel without having to worry about putting the upper receiver into a vice. I've got all the tools necessary to do this job Properly and not screw anything up. I'll torque the ACC Blackout 51T 1/2 x 28 TPI Flash Hider down to spec with the ACC Flash Hider tool using a good Craftsman torque wrench 1/2" drive and test the install first without the rocketsett stuff and then if I like what I see I'll mount the Flash hider with rocketsett compound. I plan on eventually buying an ACC M4-2000 5.56 suppressor one day and this flash hider will allow me to quick connect the ACC suppressor. That way I can take the suppressor off and on without special tools. It just twists on to the flash hider. That's why the flash hider cost more than $20. It has a special design to allow the suppressor to quickly twist onto the flash hider and off again.

I should start a new thread on the ACC flash hider and the M4-2000 Silencer System.


http://www.advanced-armament.com/M4-2000_p_409.html

Originally Posted By: roky0702This is a very simple fix. Buy a crush washer, remove the flash hider with a wrench, then retighten it back on with the crush washer until it is timed correctly. Done...
 
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