Are Rugers Really That Bad?

I guess I haven't been as lucky as most, as I have had a few ruger centerfires, and none of them shot worth keeping. I'm with SamSpade, I don't even stop to look at them anymore. I do like their looks and handling, just haven't been fortunate enough to get one that will shoot.
Barry
 
I love Rugers. Was watching a show on the outdoor life network the other night and they were using the new Remington's and all they did was jam when the guys were working the bolt.....so I guess it just depends on who you ask.
 
Guess I'll have to check my Rems to see if any of them have developed that problem. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

PacNor is a solution to Rugers that don't shoot well. I've sent several off to them and they all came back as real good shooters. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

It's the barrels - not the actions - that's really the problem with a lot of Rugers. - BCB
 
Hey Bay City,

That new Remington rifle with the black stock, supposed to be some entry level gun along the same lines as the Remington 710 or that ATR Mossberg. They were shooting them on some show and the rounds wouldn't feed smoothly.
 
My Ruger "ALL WEATHER" stainless synthetic stocked .223 (5 shots touching each other) will out-shoot my Remington 700 VS in .223. I did do a trigger job on the Ruger back in '93, just too heavy! JOHN
 
SamSpade saids: Quote:
The Ruger 77 is probably one of the better looking centerfire rifles but thats where it stops. It depends on what is acceptable accuracy for you. The big problem with them is there are a WHOLE bunch of rifles that shoot better than they do. I don't even look at a Ruger 77 on the for sale rack.



I am with you, SamSpade, on this one!
I pass them up also.
 
I would have to chime in with how good the Ruger's look. Love the No 1's and the 77/22 Hornet's. However, the bad part is never seen one that would shoot either and I have shot a bunch of them.

The only Ruger 77's that I have seen that would shoot was the .220 Swifts! For some reason, these are awesome!

Not bashing Rugers, as this statement goes for any rifle. I have a lot of rifles and when you can take a CZ, Tikka, or Rem (they are getting squirrely lately)out of the box and shoot, just can't see spending money on something that should shoot from the start. I feel the same way about Winchesters. I love the way a Model 70 feels but they don't shoot worth squat either.
 
Bay City???? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Do you mean the Rem 700 SPS? Its a 700 action with a cheaper finish and a Tupperware stock that replaced the ADL this year.

Hardly comparable to a Rem 710 or a Mossberg ATR, but OK.... if that's what you saw, it must be true...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I'm glad none of my 700's, including one SPS, have this affliction.

PS - I do own/have owned a few Rugers also, going back 30 years. Only one was a shooter out of the box, but like I said, PacNor can make 'em shoot when Ruger didn't. I do like the Ruger 77 action - especially the older tang-safety model.

Bay City out...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
PS... My oldest son has a Ruger 223 that is a bug-hole shooting son-of-a-gun. I had a M77 varmint barrel back in the very late 70's that I never could get to group any smaller than 0.85". Finally sold it and never bought another ruger after that.
 
i bought a ruger 25-06 last yr. it will shoot 5/8 inch at 100 yd 5 shot groups. i honed the trigger and have done a dozen or so. definitely a keeper. nice lookin rifle to boot. i have alot of different makes of guns and if i cant make em shoot under moa i trade em. i had a 22-250 m77 sporter that shot under 1/2 inch groups but the chamber was oval and the brass was ruined after the first shot. it had lots of firings under its belt and still shot when i sold it.
 
I've owned quite a few rugers over the years, and if I was in the market, I doubt I would buy a new one. But, if I was choosing between an old remmy, win. and tang-safetied ruger with all things being equal, I'd take the ruger every time.
 
I have two in 223, both are shooters second to none. Next time I will get something different, just to be different.
 
I have a M77 tanger med hvy in 6mm trigger job and releaved barrel, and if any one wants to shoot 5 shots @ 100yds. for $100 I'm game any day. I also have a 700 VLS 22-250 trigger job and releaved barrel, I have yet to shoot a group as good as my 6mm but I'm working on it. Dad has a M77 MKII in 6mm and that shoots .5 grops also and his M77 30-06 is also a shooter.

NOTE: my 6mm likes speed the harder I push it the better it shoots though I went through many test loads before I found the sweet spot.

If you hand load speed em way up and slow em way down I've went from 100 gr to 55gr bullets and a 65gr v-max,39.3 grs. H-4895, rem 9.5 primers, C.O.L. 3.90". shoots better than it has to for a hunting load like 3 shots at .370 not bad for a ruger that is suppose to be, at best, acceptable. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I have two older Rugers .22-250 bull barrel and a .270, both tang safety models built in 1976. Never had anything done to either to get them to shoot. The triggers are crisp and light. I have seen the new 3 way safety model and I don't really care for it. I think this is the model with the trigger problems.
 
I love my Ruger Mark II in .243. Wouldn't get rid of it. It seems like it does the job for deer and coyotes. I can hit what I'm aiming at with the factory trigger and parts.
 
I have a 1976 Model 77 in 25-06. It will shoot MOA or better all day long with anything you want to feed it. My gun is stamped "1976 Centennial Model" on the barrel. Maybe Ruger took a little more time to produce these guns. My trigger is a crisp 3#s. All I've ever done is feed it and clean it.

My son has an older Model 77 with the tang safety in 243 and it shoots under MOA all day with factory ammo.

It seems that most of the Ruger complaints are with the MKII rifles. Where there's smoke there must be fire somewhere! I'm thinking about buying a lighter caliber calling gun and it will probably be a CZ or Tikka. No sense taking a chance if you want a gun you won't have to tinker with to get it to shoot.

Truckeedan
 
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