Barnes bullets...bought by Remington

Originally Posted By: filmitBarnes is no longer located in PG. They just built a new facility in Mona Utah which is about 5 miles north of Nephi. Just off the freeway. They've been in it less than a year.

This is sad news. I hope Coni, Randy and Jessica stay on.

which if they were looking to sell doesn't seem likely they would want to build a brand new building.
 
Originally Posted By: filmitBarnes is no longer located in PG. They just built a new facility in Mona Utah which is about 5 miles north of Nephi. Just off the freeway. They've been in it less than a year.

This is sad news. I hope Coni, Randy and Jessica stay on.

I imagine they got enough $$$ outta the deal that they're not sticking around, 'cept as maybe highly paid consultatnts.
 
Without Randy that place will go nowhere. He's pretty much a genius when it comes to tinkering with bullets and coming up with new products. The Brooks family is Barnes bullets.
 
It'll be all right, when they go belly-up, the US govt will bail them out, and take over control, because "They are too big to fail"!!
I feel better already!!!
Mark
 
Originally Posted By: DucksoupFederal can't be to happy about that news! They load a LOT of Barnes bullets in their ammo.
I didn't think about that. I don't reload, so I shoot a lot of federal stuff with the Barnes and Nosler bullets. Its gonna really suck if they stop making them.
 
Originally Posted By: crazylikeafoxOriginally Posted By: DucksoupFederal can't be to happy about that news! They load a LOT of Barnes bullets in their ammo.
I didn't think about that. I don't reload, so I shoot a lot of federal stuff with the Barnes and Nosler bullets. Its gonna really suck if they stop making them.

Nosler will gladly fill the void with their E-tip bullets.

Hoggy
 
Originally Posted By: mark shubertIt'll be all right, when they go belly-up, the US govt will bail them out, and take over control, because "They are too big to fail"!!
I feel better already!!!
Mark

I think the general attitude with a firearms company, would be they are so big they should fail.
 
I hate to hear this. Their new plant is not far from my house. I wounder if they will move it and shut down around here.

I can't see any reason that this could be good news. There is something to be said for a family owned company. The quality can only go down.
 
The acquisition of so much of the firearms industry by Cerberus is a potentially good news/bad news story for those of us concerned about the firearms industry and 2ndA rights.

Good news:

The guy who started/runs Cerberus, Steve Feinberg, is an avid hunter and is purportedly something of a gun nut himself.

His management philosophy is (in general) not to screw with what works. If a company is profitable or shows strong potential (which is why he buys them), he basically leaves them alone as long as they continue to make money. He has a strong record of NOT replacing management and even requiring that management stay in place for a period as a condition of the sale.

In general he doesn't buy what needs fixing, he buys what's already working.

Bad news:

He's not a wizard, he's made some bad calls, and the bottom line is profit for his investors. He bought a significant percentage of Chrysler, gave up equity with the bailout, but retained Chrysler Financial, declared that Chrysler Financial would be bankrupt by the end of 2011, blah blah blah. End result Cerberus may have lost ~7% of it's assets under management.

Not a good thing at all, though some pretty adroit moves were made to mitigate the losses.

Being a private equity investment firm, no one knows just how much Mr Feinberg owns, but in a publicly traded corporation that might be enough to get him removed as CEO.

My take on it is to wait and see. It's likely that Steve Fienburg owns at least a controlling, if not a majority interest in Cerberus and there will likely be increased profitability in the firearms industry as a result of his purchases, which will be good news for you and me.

On the other hand, one owner having control of so much of the industry is a little scary. If any one of a number of things went wrong, particularly now in the new age of government intervention, the industry as a whole could take a big hit.
 
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