beaver castors used in cover scents

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I read an article in the Feb., Trapper & Predator Caller about using beaver castors in trapping lures. I was wondering could this be applied to cover scents.If anyone has tried this,I would like to know your results.
 
I haven't tried it hound tracker and as a matter of fact haven't started calling with my new call yet. But i myself trap and it's funny i read your post because i was thinking of something along the same lines. I do know that beaver castors is a great attractor for alot of animals. I have some red fox urine i use when trapping yotes and it works. I plan on setting out my caller and putting out a little fox urine near it when i call. I figure if and when a yote comes in to the caller downwind it might get a whiff of the fox urine and that definately wouldn't hurt. The coyote dislikes the red fox and they don't like the idea of one in their territory. I actually did an experiment before the trapping season with red fox urine and my game camera. I
got a picture of a yote urinating on the red fox urine. The
yote i think was telling the fox that this is my territory not yours. Anyway, if i knew how, i would post the pick. Hope this helps.
 
Cover scent as appled to coyote hunting is a waste of time and effort. They'll smell you right through it, no foolin' a coyotes nose like that.
 
I wasn't thinking strictly of coyotes.Coyote population #'s are low in my area. I was thinking more along the lines of a multi species. Used more like a lure than a cover scent I guess.The article stated that beaver castors worked great on multiple species as a lure. I have also heard that using scents of more top level predators could scare away lesser ones. I try a little coon urine every now and then but haven't had enough experience to make a judgement yet.I'm also throwing around the idea of rabbit urine, maybe on my decoy. I'd appreciate any input. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
beaver castor is a call. we will be working on some call scent combine with calling starting in march. the one problem I can see is if the yote is spooky it may send them the other way, grey fox will most likly be positive reds who knows coon I think will be positive.

I will agree and disagree with GC I have been making and testing cover scents since 1987 and I have seen when they work and when they Don't I have good luck with fox and coon and they will work on yote at times and not work other times (more not than yes). as far as call lures I don't know but will be finding out.

Do a back search not to long ago there was a post on cover scents somewhere here
 
This may sound dumb, but I've used beaver caster as a cover while bow hunting in the early season down by the river. Dont know if it helps or hurts, but in that area its a natural scent the deer are used to, and it sure is strong! I think any good scent used with good scent control practices and a good respect for the wind cant hurt when calling coyotes. The best situation is to have your scent drifting over an open area where the coyote wont want to go, and if he goes there you have a long clear shot.

I've also thought of useing rabbit, or fox scents at the remote call or decoy as sort of an attractant.
 
Fellas after reading this post I wanted to tell you a funny story. Last year during deer gun season here in Ohio I was using rabbit urine as a cover scent. I was also wearing a scent lock suit,hood,gloves, etc... Anyway, I have a 6 oz bottle of the rabbit urine in my fanny pack. Sometime during the hunt the lid opened and the whole damn bottle spilled out. lol..... Now, I didn't smell a thing because of the hood I was wearing and I couldn't fiqure out why my hands felt sticky. lol... Anyway, I'm sitting with my back against a tree looking down a wooded ridge when a coyote comes running up the hill full bore. Of course I had the wind to my face but he was for sure on a mission. He stopped about 15ft in front of me behind a tree. All I could see was his nose. At first I was like a deer in head lights. lol.... I tried to get a shot off but as soon as I moved he bolted. I had no ideal how quick those critters can be. That was my first experience with a coyote in the wild. I don't know if you can fool them but he was definetly looking for a big smelly rabbit. lol.....
 
Here is the pic i was talking about while experimenting with fox urine. I don't think you should use a cover scent, but if using an electronic caller that uses a remote, i think putting a little fox urine out by the caller might not be a bad idea.

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A coyote smells where you walked to set the caller or decoy out, and, he smells your scent on the caller/decoy. I used to spritz a little fox or coon scent around the caller/decoy. Never made one bit of difference. When the coyote gets there, even if they are totally sold on the set-up and want to take a bite out of it, they'll smell you and "break camp" for healthier places. Do your dead level best to kill them BEFORE they can catch this scent, otherwise it gets real tough afterward.
 
Guys I have to agree with GC on this... over the years I have seen coyotes pick off guys (and me) that have used every hair brained idea to cover their scent. It is just not worth the time to "cover" or eliminate your scent. It is worth your time to try and control your scent! I use scent control clothing and I use Scent Zapper Dirt Formula on my clothing... I did use fox urine, coon urine, skunk urine (NEVER USE SKUNK URINE ON ANYTHING YOU DON'T MIND BURNING!), and even deer urine. It didn't make my calling any more successful. Stop that coyote before he gets into your scent cone and you are in luck. Wait and rely on cover scents and you will be disappointed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I don't believe human scent plays such a big part as you might make it sound, at least not around here. Coyotes come into contact around here often with human scent and are
probably not too scared about it unless it is overwhelming. I have taken multiple pics of coyotes with my game camera only 10-15 feet away. Tell me that they didn't smell my scent along with the electronics and plastics of the camera. Coyotes are like people too, some are shy, and some aren't. I have also trapped, and baited coyotes around here and know what it takes to kill coyote. Bottom line is you can't keep a coyote from scenting you totally while trapping or baiting period. Maybe Missouri is different.
But im not trying to pick a fight here either, i know alot of guys within my own state that would disagree with me. It's just my own proven opinion. I have pics to back up my theorys. When i do use my fox urine, it will be downwind 20 yards or so of my calling unit. Will it work? I won't know until I try.
 
This will never be settled LOL

I believe they work and have 20 plus years showing that they do! I also believe that they don't work and have 35 years to say that. I had this same aurgument 20 years ago with a fellow that challeage me to make one that did. I told him They did not work you can't take away human odor! His reply was try hard to prove they do then you will know if they don't for sure. With all that being said which has no importance to anyone but me.

The one fact is this people draw a conclussion on something or anything and stick to it right or wrong based on what they see hear or happen to them. some guys will buy cover scents and they will not work for them because of what ever reason then just say I do not use them and never try to make them work. others buy or use a scent even when it does not work just because some they talked to said they do. some use scents because thay know that they work and then again maybe that yote or deer my pick up human odor and take off.

I agree that all effort should be made to kill that critter before it can get to smell you! ALL setups should be made for the wind and no back door action! But if you are calling thick stuff that you can only see 30 yards with a scatter Gun that is a crap shoot. day calling is easier to see the critter than night in my neck of the woods and they will come in on you from any where.

The other night a yote was 15 yards down wind of me and did not know I was there till the flame came out of the barrel. the yote before that a few nights picked me up 50 yards out go figure.

Just my two scents I will wear cover or other scents for one reason It can't hurt. but may help

By the way I respect Gc so much that I read every post he coments on because he makes alot of sence and knows what is going on and how to do it, I just do not agree completly on this subject LOL
 
Everybody works out their own salvation based on their research, beliefs, and experiences. I know one thing, if I can kill them before they can smell me then I do not need to worry about scent... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Since this has escalated to more of a debate about scents working or not I will now ask if anyone has tried misting. I read an article in Predator Hunting magazine,wintet 2005 issue that contained info on misting.The article titled " A Happy Obsession" was an interview between predator hunting and Rich Higgins. At the time he was 62 and from Scottsdale,Arizona. In the interview Higgins is talking about calling coyotes as close as possible,keeping them there as long as possible,how sounds affected them, and what sounds would bring them back after he had been busted.He states to keep downwind coyotes from running,he employs misting . It's supposed to cause sensory overload to the coyote's nose. He talks about using a mix of equal parts coyote,bobcat,grayfox,and rabbit urines without diluting them. Higgins also states that he doesn't believe cover scents work on coyotes but this mthod just confuses them leaving them standing there sniffing.Has anyone tried this with sucess?
 
Misting has been one of the more hotly debated topics on PM. In fact, it has been too hotly debated at times. I'd try a search of all the forums and see what you get. Might make for some interesting reading...
 
In reality misting and cover scents do the same thing. you can not take away human odor. you can't hide it. but if the scent is stronger than human odor it can confuse the critter. How long is up to the critter each critter has it's own tolerence to odors it views as a treat. The mixing of the urines cause a what's that effect on the critter the odor getting stronger then going light also adds a confussion to the critter in theory. I have misted for deer if you take a doe in heat urine and mist it from a tree it can work but will pull the deer down wind you better be clean!

One reason we as callers have trouble with these things is it is harder for us to hide our odor or better put keep our odor down. we move alot, we walk to our stands make the call get up go to another, jump in the truck and so forth we are in truth absorbing odors all the time plus sweeting as we move. also we are blowing our breath into the air when using mouth calls. If you don't think this matters eat a piece of jerky and blow it at youe dog ten feet away and see what happens. Deer hunters have a set of clothes that are used only for deer hunting kept in air thight containers and so forth. they control their set more

something else is the area that you live in here in jersey evey deer hunter I know that kill big bucks would never sit in a tree with out cover scent carcoal suits and what ever else when I hunt in maine they never used the stuff they did not see a need in it but they did not hunt trees they worked the wind in tracking and still hunting.

Like GC stated may not be sompin we want to get into
 
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