Flesh Eater
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Yep. It's how you aim it. I just took a shot with the top of the center bead on the very top of the fromt bead and BOOM, dead on POA.
Benelli Supernova Shooting High?
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huntschool
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I trust you will have the time to duplicate your head position and that hold when ya got a yote screaming in on ya........ right?
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derbyacresbob
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Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterYep. It's how you aim it. I just took a shot with the top of the center bead on the very top of the fromt bead and BOOM, dead on POA.
Did you have to smash your head down on the comb of the stock to get the beads to line up like that?
When you mount the gun and put your face on the stock comfortably is the front bead above the middle bead?
If the top of the center bead is not on the very top of the front bead when you mount the gun it will be very difficult to hit moving targets or animals the way it is set up.
You shouldn't have to move your head on the stock and aim your shotgun to hit what you are looking at.
Did you have to smash your head down on the comb of the stock to get the beads to line up like that?
When you mount the gun and put your face on the stock comfortably is the front bead above the middle bead?
If the top of the center bead is not on the very top of the front bead when you mount the gun it will be very difficult to hit moving targets or animals the way it is set up.
You shouldn't have to move your head on the stock and aim your shotgun to hit what you are looking at.
SlickerThanSnot
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Originally Posted By: huntschoolI trust you will have the time to duplicate your head position and that hold when ya got a yote screaming in on ya........ right?
beat me to it.
aim and shoot a rifle.
point and shoot a shotgun.
beat me to it.
aim and shoot a rifle.
point and shoot a shotgun.
Flesh Eater
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I don't know...all I know is that I'm hitting everything I'm aiming at now. Last night I went out before dark to make sure and took out some rodents. Either I'm naturally adjusting to this, and its quirks, or getting lucky. I was probably overthinking it, since I never shoot shotguns. They're nothing like rifles.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
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"probably", if you don't stop your swing, if you leade them correctly.
Coyotes on a dead run, at 15 yards and under are easy to miss. At 25 yards when they have got your scent and turn the afterburners on, they are especially hard to hit.
I can remember a hunt where there were 4 of us in the truck. We hit the weather pattern perfect, dropping barometric pressure, very light snow, about 30*, and very light wind...perfect.
We marched out in the dessert, lined up in a row about 30-35 yards apart. We were all experienced hand callers. Two of us started hand calling at the same time. I was on the end of the 4 guys, far right. About two minutes into the stand, I saw a coyote coming in in real hard to my far left. He was coming right down In front of all 4 of us. The first guy shot three times-went empty, the second gun shot twice, jammed, the third guy fell off his bucket(when he tried to stand up as he could not shoot sitting down), and I was the only guy left. I had an old 25/20 Remington Pump. I shot behind on the first shot at 25 yards when aiming about 6" in front of him. He turned 90* and ran straight away from me. I was so excited that I kept on trying to pull the trigger(muscle memory from carrying the 1100), and got him on the second shot at about 85 yards.
We continued the stand for another 30 minutes, got three more. I think that between us, we shot nearly 30 rounds on that stand. We picked up 17 that day, and it was a good thing that I had 50 more buckshot behind the seat of my truck because these guys could not hit a running coyote, they shot behind them constantly.
I took those three other guys shooting skeet once a month during the Summer months, which cured that shooting behind a coyote issue.
If you put the time in on a decent shotgun with various chokes, it will be a serious gun in your arsenal.
Coyotes on a dead run, at 15 yards and under are easy to miss. At 25 yards when they have got your scent and turn the afterburners on, they are especially hard to hit.
I can remember a hunt where there were 4 of us in the truck. We hit the weather pattern perfect, dropping barometric pressure, very light snow, about 30*, and very light wind...perfect.
We marched out in the dessert, lined up in a row about 30-35 yards apart. We were all experienced hand callers. Two of us started hand calling at the same time. I was on the end of the 4 guys, far right. About two minutes into the stand, I saw a coyote coming in in real hard to my far left. He was coming right down In front of all 4 of us. The first guy shot three times-went empty, the second gun shot twice, jammed, the third guy fell off his bucket(when he tried to stand up as he could not shoot sitting down), and I was the only guy left. I had an old 25/20 Remington Pump. I shot behind on the first shot at 25 yards when aiming about 6" in front of him. He turned 90* and ran straight away from me. I was so excited that I kept on trying to pull the trigger(muscle memory from carrying the 1100), and got him on the second shot at about 85 yards.
We continued the stand for another 30 minutes, got three more. I think that between us, we shot nearly 30 rounds on that stand. We picked up 17 that day, and it was a good thing that I had 50 more buckshot behind the seat of my truck because these guys could not hit a running coyote, they shot behind them constantly.
I took those three other guys shooting skeet once a month during the Summer months, which cured that shooting behind a coyote issue.
If you put the time in on a decent shotgun with various chokes, it will be a serious gun in your arsenal.
Flesh Eater
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Originally Posted By: ackleyman"probably", if you don't stop your swing, if you leade them correctly.
Coyotes on a dead run, at 15 yards and under are easy to miss. At 25 yards when they have got your scent and turn the afterburners on, they are especially hard to hit.
I can remember a hunt where there were 4 of us in the truck. We hit the weather pattern perfect, dropping barometric pressure, very light snow, about 30*, and very light wind...perfect.
We marched out in the dessert, lined up in a row about 30-35 yards apart. We were all experienced hand callers. Two of us started hand calling at the same time. I was on the end of the 4 guys, far right. About two minutes into the stand, I saw a coyote coming in in real hard to my far left. He was coming right down In front of all 4 of us. The first guy shot three times-went empty, the second gun shot twice, jammed, the third guy fell off his bucket(when he tried to stand up as he could not shoot sitting down), and I was the only guy left. I had an old 25/20 Remington Pump. I shot behind on the first shot at 25 yards when aiming about 6" in front of him. He turned 90* and ran straight away from me. I was so excited that I kept on trying to pull the trigger(muscle memory from carrying the 1100), and got him on the second shot at about 85 yards.
We continued the stand for another 30 minutes, got three more. I think that between us, we shot nearly 30 rounds on that stand. We picked up 17 that day, and it was a good thing that I had 50 more buckshot behind the seat of my truck because these guys could not hit a running coyote, they shot behind them constantly.
I took those three other guys shooting skeet once a month during the Summer months, which cured that shooting behind a coyote issue.
If you put the time in on a decent shotgun with various chokes, it will be a serious gun in your arsenal.
I think that last sentence sums up exactly what I need to do with this 12 gauge. As of right, whatever I'm doing is landing shots. If I keep that up, I'll be fine. Ha-ha! But, I need practice with this stupid thing (I really don't like shotguns).
I'm in PA, if I have a coyote come into shotgun range, it's going to be 15 yards, at night. If it's running, it's going to live. I spend more time anticipating the longer shot than I do the short, quick shots. Will that burn me one night? Probably, but oh well. With a shotgun resting in my lap, I think the coyote will have a good chance of living to see another day.
Coyotes on a dead run, at 15 yards and under are easy to miss. At 25 yards when they have got your scent and turn the afterburners on, they are especially hard to hit.
I can remember a hunt where there were 4 of us in the truck. We hit the weather pattern perfect, dropping barometric pressure, very light snow, about 30*, and very light wind...perfect.
We marched out in the dessert, lined up in a row about 30-35 yards apart. We were all experienced hand callers. Two of us started hand calling at the same time. I was on the end of the 4 guys, far right. About two minutes into the stand, I saw a coyote coming in in real hard to my far left. He was coming right down In front of all 4 of us. The first guy shot three times-went empty, the second gun shot twice, jammed, the third guy fell off his bucket(when he tried to stand up as he could not shoot sitting down), and I was the only guy left. I had an old 25/20 Remington Pump. I shot behind on the first shot at 25 yards when aiming about 6" in front of him. He turned 90* and ran straight away from me. I was so excited that I kept on trying to pull the trigger(muscle memory from carrying the 1100), and got him on the second shot at about 85 yards.
We continued the stand for another 30 minutes, got three more. I think that between us, we shot nearly 30 rounds on that stand. We picked up 17 that day, and it was a good thing that I had 50 more buckshot behind the seat of my truck because these guys could not hit a running coyote, they shot behind them constantly.
I took those three other guys shooting skeet once a month during the Summer months, which cured that shooting behind a coyote issue.
If you put the time in on a decent shotgun with various chokes, it will be a serious gun in your arsenal.
I think that last sentence sums up exactly what I need to do with this 12 gauge. As of right, whatever I'm doing is landing shots. If I keep that up, I'll be fine. Ha-ha! But, I need practice with this stupid thing (I really don't like shotguns).
I'm in PA, if I have a coyote come into shotgun range, it's going to be 15 yards, at night. If it's running, it's going to live. I spend more time anticipating the longer shot than I do the short, quick shots. Will that burn me one night? Probably, but oh well. With a shotgun resting in my lap, I think the coyote will have a good chance of living to see another day.
GC
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Find a skeet range and go shoot several rounds of skeet from the low gun position. That'll tell you if it's going to work or not. For a new shotgunner if you can break 20+ birds from low gun you'll be fine. If you're struggling to break 15 - 18 your system is flawed and you'll do considerably worse at night on a fast moving coyote in brush or big timber.
steve garrett
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Originally Posted By: DAAI was seeing a lot of rib on my Benelli out of the box. Shim change only took a few minutes and corrected it nicely. It's really easy to do.
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almost every shotgun I pick up I am looking down the top of the rib, seeing rib and bead rather than just bead. I had my over and under corrected a long time ago. The gun smith added a thicker nicer recoil pad and undid the top screw of the old pad and kept slipping in quarters till I got the sight picture I liked. Then he just cut the stock a tad and fitted the better recoil pad. they make wedge shims to adjust that.
- DAA
almost every shotgun I pick up I am looking down the top of the rib, seeing rib and bead rather than just bead. I had my over and under corrected a long time ago. The gun smith added a thicker nicer recoil pad and undid the top screw of the old pad and kept slipping in quarters till I got the sight picture I liked. Then he just cut the stock a tad and fitted the better recoil pad. they make wedge shims to adjust that.
Flesh Eater, a couple years ago I sprung for a brand new Benelli M2 after shooting 870s my whole life. Loved that gun, light, compact, pointed well for me.... Until I shot it! Missed the first 5 clays in a row. Shot the board and was hitting high like you. So I shimmed the stock down, which brought it down partway but still high. End solution was putting a nice big fiber optic bead on the gun, put it right where I needed it and I love the big bead. Excellent for low light and it reminds me to slow down a little instead of snap shooting and not swinging correctly. I used to get excited and shoot way too fast, and therefore miss. Anyway now clays are endangered and I went 7/7 on pheasants the first year. Spend the time, it will pay you back ten fold. Best of luck.
derbyacresbob
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Originally Posted By: Flesh EaterI don't know...all I know is that I'm hitting everything I'm aiming at now. Last night I went out before dark to make sure and took out some rodents. Either I'm naturally adjusting to this, and its quirks, or getting lucky. I was probably overthinking it, since I never shoot shotguns. They're nothing like rifles.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
Are you holding your rifle and then trying to switch to your shotgun?
I have my shotgun in my hands and then switch to my rifle if it is needed. Normally I have much more time to get ready for rifle shots than I do for shotgun shots.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
Are you holding your rifle and then trying to switch to your shotgun?
I have my shotgun in my hands and then switch to my rifle if it is needed. Normally I have much more time to get ready for rifle shots than I do for shotgun shots.
Flesh Eater
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Originally Posted By: derbyacresbobOriginally Posted By: Flesh EaterI don't know...all I know is that I'm hitting everything I'm aiming at now. Last night I went out before dark to make sure and took out some rodents. Either I'm naturally adjusting to this, and its quirks, or getting lucky. I was probably overthinking it, since I never shoot shotguns. They're nothing like rifles.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
Are you holding your rifle and then trying to switch to your shotgun?
I have my shotgun in my hands and then switch to my rifle if it is needed. Normally I have much more time to get ready for rifle shots than I do for shotgun shots.
Yes, I usually sit with my rifle on its bipod, and lay the shotgun either on my lap or beside me. I sit in the middle of fields and hunt strictly at night. I scan 360 degrees, so I "should" have enough time to see one coming in. Of course, the best way to learn is from a mistake.
Thanks for the info everyone. I'm going to put more time into this shotgun. If I start missing, I'll shim it and see what happens. As of right now I'm like 5/5 on the rodent problem around my house.
I honestly don't even know why I carry a 12 gauge while hunting coyotes, My scope is on 3, and by the time I get the 12 gauge up I could probably get a predator in the scope.
Are you holding your rifle and then trying to switch to your shotgun?
I have my shotgun in my hands and then switch to my rifle if it is needed. Normally I have much more time to get ready for rifle shots than I do for shotgun shots.
Yes, I usually sit with my rifle on its bipod, and lay the shotgun either on my lap or beside me. I sit in the middle of fields and hunt strictly at night. I scan 360 degrees, so I "should" have enough time to see one coming in. Of course, the best way to learn is from a mistake.
Thanks for the info everyone. I'm going to put more time into this shotgun. If I start missing, I'll shim it and see what happens. As of right now I'm like 5/5 on the rodent problem around my house.