64gr winchester power points, cci400, 25gr varget. 70gr speer semi pointed, cci400, 25gr varget. 69gr hpbt, cci400, 25gr varget. 55gr sierra spbt, cci400, 25gr varget. You might see a trend. All shoot good in my 186 series mini 14 with 4x40 scope. My prefered load is the 70gr speer.