Bibs or regular pants?
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TonyTebbe
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You can't beat a good pair of insulated reversible camo bibs. The ones with normal camo on one side and snow camo on the other. I used them in Idaho for many years. Of course, you want camo pants, as well, so you can wear layers, based on the temp changes throughout the day and season.
Good luck.
Tony
Good luck.
Tony
I hate bibs. They never seem to fit right and most of them are too heavy and awkward to move around in. There are literally hundreds of choices of warm clothing that are lighter, warmer, more water resistant and fit me better. It is a very rare pair of bibs that fit tall slender people....
Bowknutt
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I guess that I'm just a bib man--Work/knockabout=Liberty bibs hunting=Camo bibs --cold weather=Ins. Bibs--Don't like my shoulders and arms bound up.
I'm a big fellow and the bibs allow me to walk/kneel/sit and not have to chase my britches-You big boys know what I mean walking with your hands full, where does your britches go.
David
I'm a big fellow and the bibs allow me to walk/kneel/sit and not have to chase my britches-You big boys know what I mean walking with your hands full, where does your britches go.
David
ARCOREY
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I like pants in the warm weather, uninsulated bibs in cool weather, and insulated bibs in the cold. If you get the insulated bibs, make sure they have leg zippers in them and preferrably the double zippers that let you unzip top down or bottom up. I got 2 sets of Redhead insulated bibs like that with double front zippers and a waterproof pocket for $50 each in a hardware store years ago. I finally ripped a pair this winter trapping and have started to wear the spares. Keep in mind that most bibs don't come with belt loops, so handguns, knives, and light batteries will have to go flopping around on a loose belt or in a pocket or pack
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blopez50
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Ive got a pair of carhartt bibs that have recently became my "everything" gear! On a college kid budget, its nice that I could buy one pair and use em for everything...
Working, hunting,skiing, just messin around.. you name it they work great. I sprayed the butt and legs really good with some waterproofer and it seems to be working out pretty good!
Working, hunting,skiing, just messin around.. you name it they work great. I sprayed the butt and legs really good with some waterproofer and it seems to be working out pretty good!
AWS
Custom Accessory Maker & Retired PM Staff
I have two sets of heavy wool bibs for cold weater otherwise Im a suspender and pants guy. When I was carpenterring I did like cotton bibs on hot days and left the side button undone for circulation kind of nice to have something loose while I was finishing cement too.
AWS
AWS
deaddogwalkin
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I use up to 3 layers when I'm hunting besides the regular clothes that I wear. Early fall I wear a set of light weight camo pants and coat. If it gets colder I throw on a pair of flease camo coat and pants over top of the light weight camo. If it really gets cold I have a medium weight insulated bibs and a medium weight insulated coat that I put on over top of the other layers. Still able to move well and I can change the layers depending on what the temp is. If it is snow covered then I throw on either the full set of my natgear snow camo or I can just use the long coat that it comes with. I just make sure that the outer layers are larger that the next to allow movement. I went the route of heavy insulated bibs and coat but I still got cold until i went to layering. I still run the heavy insulated bibs and coat when it is -20+. Have not got cold yet. Stay away from the coveralls they are too restrictive. This has worked for me from AZ to south dakota.
Tyler Burgin
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If its wet at all bibs it is. Keeps snow/rain from goin down your plumbers crack. If your worried about fit and not price underarmor or drake gear are about like getting fitted for a tux. Pick the right pair and their just perfect
Coyotehunter_
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LOL. The old Beer Belly problem.
I sweat a lot and have trouble getting the sweat out of my Field & Stream Parka that has a Thinsulate zip in liner jacket. The inner liner jacket can be worn by itself or zipped into the Outer Parka. The Parka has the HydroProof Ultra Waterproof Breathable material. The camo patter is MossyOak Breakup. Of course I can take out the inner liner jacket and just wear the Parka by itself. But the Parka and the Inner Jacket have plastic zippers the storm flap on the Parka gets caught in the zipper easily. I actually got the zipper stuck more than a few time and had to break a couple of the plastic teeth out of the zipper to get the zipper free on time. I'm planning on having a metal zipper sewn into the Parka someday to fix this problem.
I have a set of Field & Steam Camo (Mossyoak Breakup) Bibs to go with this but I very seldom wear them for some reason. The bibs are insulated with Thinsulate material and have the HydroProof in them too.
The problem with this outfit is that the Parka with the liner is heavy as [beeep]. And when I sweat the water all collects in the Thinsulate inner liner jacket. And when I take the Parka off the inside of it is soaking wet. Even the sleeve are wet inside. I have to turn the thing inside out and hang it up to dry after wearing it just for a 30 minutes. There is no way for the water vapor (sweat) to get out of the Outer Parka so it's trapped inside the inner jacket where the Thinsulate is located.
No matter what base layer I wear I still get the sweat inside the Parka and the Thinsulate liner inner jacket.
Now, when I just wear the Parka by itself (take the liner jacket out) it a lot better sweat wise. But then I don't say as warm. I'd have to wear some layers under the Camo Field and Steam Camo Parka to stay warm.
Note: the inner jacket is reversible and brown on one side and Mossy Oak breakup on the other. I use it a lot in the fall and spring just by itself. And I also use the Parka by itself a lot when it's not really cold outside. The Inner liner Jacket still gets wet at times as it just a wick for water (sweat) and hold the water in it. I thought that Thinsulate material didn't do that but this one does.
I thought that the Gortex material in the Parka would let the water vapor out but I think it traps it inside the Parka more than anything.
For a base layer I wear the Rocky Heavy Weight Fleece Thermal Bottoms and Tops from Wal-Mart. XL for low activity and cold weather. I have a pair that are thinner and used for cold weather with more activity. But I won't wear those when it's really cold outside. Below 32Deg F.
I also have a pair of long johns (tops and bottom) that are tight fitting and white that I got from Target a few years ago. They are a little small and feel uncomfortable and are the compression type long johns. I can't remember the brand name. I should have gotten a bigger bottom as it's not long enough to stay up and cover the butt crack. So I feel like I'm getting a draft when I wear them.
The Rocky are very comfortable as they are Performance Fleece (what ever that means) and are said to be 4 way stretch fabric that moves with you. They also have ScentIQ scent control.
Now for a mid layer I'm not sure what I should wear. I have a Remington camo long sleeve shirt that made out of polyester material that I can wear. And I have a couple of Cotton/Polyester 80/20% Sweatshirt Hoodies that I can throw on under the Parka. But, the Hoodies are made out of cotton. They can get wet and that's not good. Now, if it's in the 40's I can just wear the Hoodies over the long johns and put on a pair of Camo Wrangler Insulated Jeans or uninsulated Wranger Camo Jeans and then put on a sweat shirt or the Hoodie. But if it's really cold outside (below freezing) I'm going to have to figure out a shirt and vest that will wick away the moisture (sweat). Or the sweat will get sucked away by the Compression long johns and get soaked up by the shirt and hoodie.
I can wear regular blue genes or the Wranger Pro Gear insulated camo pants. I love these as they are very comfortable and warm. They have belt loops and allow me to wear a belt onto which I wear my cell phone case and a Nite)ize case with my small mag light flashlight in it and a multi-tool in it as well. I carry these tools with me where ever I go. My nitro pills are also kept inside the Nite)ize carrying case on my belt. So having belt loops is important to me. These Wrangler Pro Gear Camo pants are my go too pants when hunting in the cold weather.
Another way to go is the wear a 10X cover all that's camo. I can put that over just about anything and stay warm. The legs are zippered up to about the knees and then the front is zippered from the top to the midsection. It's easy to get on and off with the zippers opened. But I'm not sure what to wear underneath these 10X bibs. I could just wear long johns under it and nothing else. Or I could wear regular blue genes under it. I could wear some long john bottoms/tops a pair of the insulated Wrangle Camo Genes and a regular shirt of some kind and a hoodie. Then just put the 10 Camo bibs over the top.
What I really want to do is find something that water wicking for the mid layers. I'm thinking some type of shirt that's made out of fleece. But I'm not sure if the fleece will wick away water vapor (sweat).
I think I'll go out an look for some nice wool button up shirts to wear as a mid layer over the long johns and between the 10X camo Bibs or the Field & Stream Bibs and Parka outfit. I know that wool works well even when it's wet.
So bottom line is the under armer type compression long johns of some type or the fleece long johns next to skin. They the Wrangler Pro Gear Camo pants over the long john bottoms and a wool shirt over the long johns top. I'll skip wearing my regular Jockey Cotton Briefs and T shirt as they will hold the sweat and make me cold. Just the compression fitting long johns next to the skin and no regular underwear.
I could add a cotton/polyester combo hoodie but that may hold the water vapor (sweat) in and may not be a good idea. I'll try it out and see how it works on a few practice stands just to see how long I can stay out in the cold in this gear.
On top of all this will go the 10X Coveralls or the Field and Stream bibs and parka.
On top of my head will be either a camo baseball type cap or a sock hat with built in lights on either the sock hat or the baseball cap. The cap lights are a must for me at night. They run off two or four 2030 batteries and are very handy in the dark. There is a button built into the brim of the baseball cap that allows me to turn the lights on/off. And the sock hat has a bottom in the battery compartment that can turn the lights on/off.
I also will have a Ganger Mountain light that has a harness to hold it on top of the baseball cap or helmet of some type. I use this light as a scanning light.
For my feet I wear a thin pair of poly type socks with a thicker pair of wool socks on top of the thin socks. Then a pair of Rocky Insulated 8" boots. The boots are waterproof and insulated with Thinsulate. Or I can put on a pair of Insulated wolverine boots with higher tops. I'm still breaking in both pairs. During warm weather I just wear my sneaker as they are just so comfortable and I wear them all the time. I'm retired so I can dress like I want.
I have a hand warm tube that wraps around the waste and allows me to put my hands inside the tube. I can add the chemical hand warmer packets to the tube for added warmth.
Gloves are mitton/glove combo with the finger tips cut off and the thumb has a horizontal slit in it to allow the thumb to be exposed or not. The mitton part is folded back onto the back of the glove and held in place with two magnets. Or if you are not shooting the mitton can be flipped over the finger to keep them warm. The gloves are camo pattern and I am trying to find some more like them in White Camo color for winter time hunting in the snow.
I also have a Underbrush camo outfit (top and bottom)that will fit over regular pants/or shorts and a top with a hood that like a gilli suit. I wear this over regular shorts and T shirt when I'm dove hunting and it's nice outside in Sept and Oct.
The material is thin and sort of like a mosquito netting with small camo leaves sewn onto the material to make it 3 D like.
The top has a hood with a veil material (see though) attached that covers my face. It's long sleeve and zips up the front from bottom to the neck.
The bottoms are over sized to fit over regular pants. Light weight and see though camo material with the leaves sewn over the see though material in rows making it very good camo in 3D. The top opening has a elastic stretch band sewn into the top opening so you can just slip them on over regular cloths.
If these were 2X sized instead of XL size I could wear them over my winter cloths and add camo to anything. But they are too small to fit over the top of my layered up cloths in winter time.
So I just wear these for spring/summer and early fall hunting when it's warm outside.
I need to buy a pair of warm weather hiking boots for hunting coyotes in the summer months. But I have no place to hunt in the off season ...yet.
Underbrush (606) 376-2004. That's the phone number that I found on the label. The camo pattern on these tops/bottoms is Real Tree AP. I would love to have a XXL pair of these in white winter camo color to put over my other Real Tree AP camo and other hunting cloths for hunting after a big snow.
I've got a few other pair of synthetic long johns that I used to wear when playing Ice Hockey. But they are a little small on me now that I've gain weight. So I saved those in case I lose weight and then I can still wear them. They are still in good shape and not at all worn out. I'm good for long johns and shocks now.
It's the middle layers that I need to work on. I also going to try wearing the Field and Steam Parka with the inner liner not zipped in to the Outer Parka and see how that works. Maybe I can stuff the inner liner jacket into a back pack and hike into a stand without it. And then if I get too hot I won't sweat into it as much. Once on the stand I can put the inner jacket on and then put the outer Parka on over it. That should cool me down after the hike into the stand and also keep me warm on stand as the inner jacket won't be all wet from the long hike in.
I'm still trying to figure out what to put in the different pockets. I have two different face masks/hoods and two sock hats. One sock hat is black with a light built into the sock hat. The other is camo color but doesn't have the light in it. I can't find the white sock hat with the light in it yet. I'll use the black hat with the light at night and the camo sock hat during the day. The camo sock hat is Mossy Oak which will match the Field and Stream Camo pattern on the Parka/bibs.
I sweat a lot and have trouble getting the sweat out of my Field & Stream Parka that has a Thinsulate zip in liner jacket. The inner liner jacket can be worn by itself or zipped into the Outer Parka. The Parka has the HydroProof Ultra Waterproof Breathable material. The camo patter is MossyOak Breakup. Of course I can take out the inner liner jacket and just wear the Parka by itself. But the Parka and the Inner Jacket have plastic zippers the storm flap on the Parka gets caught in the zipper easily. I actually got the zipper stuck more than a few time and had to break a couple of the plastic teeth out of the zipper to get the zipper free on time. I'm planning on having a metal zipper sewn into the Parka someday to fix this problem.
I have a set of Field & Steam Camo (Mossyoak Breakup) Bibs to go with this but I very seldom wear them for some reason. The bibs are insulated with Thinsulate material and have the HydroProof in them too.
The problem with this outfit is that the Parka with the liner is heavy as [beeep]. And when I sweat the water all collects in the Thinsulate inner liner jacket. And when I take the Parka off the inside of it is soaking wet. Even the sleeve are wet inside. I have to turn the thing inside out and hang it up to dry after wearing it just for a 30 minutes. There is no way for the water vapor (sweat) to get out of the Outer Parka so it's trapped inside the inner jacket where the Thinsulate is located.
No matter what base layer I wear I still get the sweat inside the Parka and the Thinsulate liner inner jacket.
Now, when I just wear the Parka by itself (take the liner jacket out) it a lot better sweat wise. But then I don't say as warm. I'd have to wear some layers under the Camo Field and Steam Camo Parka to stay warm.
Note: the inner jacket is reversible and brown on one side and Mossy Oak breakup on the other. I use it a lot in the fall and spring just by itself. And I also use the Parka by itself a lot when it's not really cold outside. The Inner liner Jacket still gets wet at times as it just a wick for water (sweat) and hold the water in it. I thought that Thinsulate material didn't do that but this one does.
I thought that the Gortex material in the Parka would let the water vapor out but I think it traps it inside the Parka more than anything.
For a base layer I wear the Rocky Heavy Weight Fleece Thermal Bottoms and Tops from Wal-Mart. XL for low activity and cold weather. I have a pair that are thinner and used for cold weather with more activity. But I won't wear those when it's really cold outside. Below 32Deg F.
I also have a pair of long johns (tops and bottom) that are tight fitting and white that I got from Target a few years ago. They are a little small and feel uncomfortable and are the compression type long johns. I can't remember the brand name. I should have gotten a bigger bottom as it's not long enough to stay up and cover the butt crack. So I feel like I'm getting a draft when I wear them.
The Rocky are very comfortable as they are Performance Fleece (what ever that means) and are said to be 4 way stretch fabric that moves with you. They also have ScentIQ scent control.
Now for a mid layer I'm not sure what I should wear. I have a Remington camo long sleeve shirt that made out of polyester material that I can wear. And I have a couple of Cotton/Polyester 80/20% Sweatshirt Hoodies that I can throw on under the Parka. But, the Hoodies are made out of cotton. They can get wet and that's not good. Now, if it's in the 40's I can just wear the Hoodies over the long johns and put on a pair of Camo Wrangler Insulated Jeans or uninsulated Wranger Camo Jeans and then put on a sweat shirt or the Hoodie. But if it's really cold outside (below freezing) I'm going to have to figure out a shirt and vest that will wick away the moisture (sweat). Or the sweat will get sucked away by the Compression long johns and get soaked up by the shirt and hoodie.
I can wear regular blue genes or the Wranger Pro Gear insulated camo pants. I love these as they are very comfortable and warm. They have belt loops and allow me to wear a belt onto which I wear my cell phone case and a Nite)ize case with my small mag light flashlight in it and a multi-tool in it as well. I carry these tools with me where ever I go. My nitro pills are also kept inside the Nite)ize carrying case on my belt. So having belt loops is important to me. These Wrangler Pro Gear Camo pants are my go too pants when hunting in the cold weather.
Another way to go is the wear a 10X cover all that's camo. I can put that over just about anything and stay warm. The legs are zippered up to about the knees and then the front is zippered from the top to the midsection. It's easy to get on and off with the zippers opened. But I'm not sure what to wear underneath these 10X bibs. I could just wear long johns under it and nothing else. Or I could wear regular blue genes under it. I could wear some long john bottoms/tops a pair of the insulated Wrangle Camo Genes and a regular shirt of some kind and a hoodie. Then just put the 10 Camo bibs over the top.
What I really want to do is find something that water wicking for the mid layers. I'm thinking some type of shirt that's made out of fleece. But I'm not sure if the fleece will wick away water vapor (sweat).
I think I'll go out an look for some nice wool button up shirts to wear as a mid layer over the long johns and between the 10X camo Bibs or the Field & Stream Bibs and Parka outfit. I know that wool works well even when it's wet.
So bottom line is the under armer type compression long johns of some type or the fleece long johns next to skin. They the Wrangler Pro Gear Camo pants over the long john bottoms and a wool shirt over the long johns top. I'll skip wearing my regular Jockey Cotton Briefs and T shirt as they will hold the sweat and make me cold. Just the compression fitting long johns next to the skin and no regular underwear.
I could add a cotton/polyester combo hoodie but that may hold the water vapor (sweat) in and may not be a good idea. I'll try it out and see how it works on a few practice stands just to see how long I can stay out in the cold in this gear.
On top of all this will go the 10X Coveralls or the Field and Stream bibs and parka.
On top of my head will be either a camo baseball type cap or a sock hat with built in lights on either the sock hat or the baseball cap. The cap lights are a must for me at night. They run off two or four 2030 batteries and are very handy in the dark. There is a button built into the brim of the baseball cap that allows me to turn the lights on/off. And the sock hat has a bottom in the battery compartment that can turn the lights on/off.
I also will have a Ganger Mountain light that has a harness to hold it on top of the baseball cap or helmet of some type. I use this light as a scanning light.
For my feet I wear a thin pair of poly type socks with a thicker pair of wool socks on top of the thin socks. Then a pair of Rocky Insulated 8" boots. The boots are waterproof and insulated with Thinsulate. Or I can put on a pair of Insulated wolverine boots with higher tops. I'm still breaking in both pairs. During warm weather I just wear my sneaker as they are just so comfortable and I wear them all the time. I'm retired so I can dress like I want.
I have a hand warm tube that wraps around the waste and allows me to put my hands inside the tube. I can add the chemical hand warmer packets to the tube for added warmth.
Gloves are mitton/glove combo with the finger tips cut off and the thumb has a horizontal slit in it to allow the thumb to be exposed or not. The mitton part is folded back onto the back of the glove and held in place with two magnets. Or if you are not shooting the mitton can be flipped over the finger to keep them warm. The gloves are camo pattern and I am trying to find some more like them in White Camo color for winter time hunting in the snow.
I also have a Underbrush camo outfit (top and bottom)that will fit over regular pants/or shorts and a top with a hood that like a gilli suit. I wear this over regular shorts and T shirt when I'm dove hunting and it's nice outside in Sept and Oct.
The material is thin and sort of like a mosquito netting with small camo leaves sewn onto the material to make it 3 D like.
The top has a hood with a veil material (see though) attached that covers my face. It's long sleeve and zips up the front from bottom to the neck.
The bottoms are over sized to fit over regular pants. Light weight and see though camo material with the leaves sewn over the see though material in rows making it very good camo in 3D. The top opening has a elastic stretch band sewn into the top opening so you can just slip them on over regular cloths.
If these were 2X sized instead of XL size I could wear them over my winter cloths and add camo to anything. But they are too small to fit over the top of my layered up cloths in winter time.
So I just wear these for spring/summer and early fall hunting when it's warm outside.
I need to buy a pair of warm weather hiking boots for hunting coyotes in the summer months. But I have no place to hunt in the off season ...yet.
Underbrush (606) 376-2004. That's the phone number that I found on the label. The camo pattern on these tops/bottoms is Real Tree AP. I would love to have a XXL pair of these in white winter camo color to put over my other Real Tree AP camo and other hunting cloths for hunting after a big snow.
I've got a few other pair of synthetic long johns that I used to wear when playing Ice Hockey. But they are a little small on me now that I've gain weight. So I saved those in case I lose weight and then I can still wear them. They are still in good shape and not at all worn out. I'm good for long johns and shocks now.
It's the middle layers that I need to work on. I also going to try wearing the Field and Steam Parka with the inner liner not zipped in to the Outer Parka and see how that works. Maybe I can stuff the inner liner jacket into a back pack and hike into a stand without it. And then if I get too hot I won't sweat into it as much. Once on the stand I can put the inner jacket on and then put the outer Parka on over it. That should cool me down after the hike into the stand and also keep me warm on stand as the inner jacket won't be all wet from the long hike in.
I'm still trying to figure out what to put in the different pockets. I have two different face masks/hoods and two sock hats. One sock hat is black with a light built into the sock hat. The other is camo color but doesn't have the light in it. I can't find the white sock hat with the light in it yet. I'll use the black hat with the light at night and the camo sock hat during the day. The camo sock hat is Mossy Oak which will match the Field and Stream Camo pattern on the Parka/bibs.
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