Black Panther chases forester
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R Buker
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Run Forrester!RUN!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Trashcan
Now THAT is funny! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif
But, it's good that he was able to outrun it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Run Forrester!RUN!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Trashcan
Now THAT is funny! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif
But, it's good that he was able to outrun it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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NateDog
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Run Forrester!RUN!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
RIM SHOT!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Run Forrester!RUN!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
RIM SHOT!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
BillyTheKidd
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Rare as it may be, we could have a black cat in the U.S. They could be found in southeastern Arizona or southwest New Mexico.....Any bets? lol. Good story, thanks.
Marlin 25-36
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Now it could well have been a Fisher. I wouldn't want to get one of those mad at me. I have read where guys have treed a fisher in Virginia so it is possible. Or like it says in the article it could have been a released black leopard.
NM_HighPlains
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>>Life is hard, it's even harder when your stupid! - JOHN WAYNE
Umm... "you're" would be the correct spelling and...um...no offense, but I would probably spell it correctly if I was going to use that particular tagline. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
On the "panther", what do you guys think these are? When I was in college in '80, I was talking to a guy from VA and he was telling me about a "black panther". Said that when they were harvesting corn, that every now and then a "black panther" would run out and into the woods. I've never seen a live fisher, but a) are they big enough to be confused for a cat?, and b) do they occur in VA? The guy was a banjo player, but still.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Umm... "you're" would be the correct spelling and...um...no offense, but I would probably spell it correctly if I was going to use that particular tagline. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
On the "panther", what do you guys think these are? When I was in college in '80, I was talking to a guy from VA and he was telling me about a "black panther". Said that when they were harvesting corn, that every now and then a "black panther" would run out and into the woods. I've never seen a live fisher, but a) are they big enough to be confused for a cat?, and b) do they occur in VA? The guy was a banjo player, but still.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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BillyTheKidd
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No black Panthers in the Americas, except those human ones from the 60s.
Jaguars can come in a black phase but is not called a panther.
Mt Lions, Ocelots, Margays, Jaguarundis, Lynx and Babcats are not black.
I hope my spelling was ok?
Jaguars can come in a black phase but is not called a panther.
Mt Lions, Ocelots, Margays, Jaguarundis, Lynx and Babcats are not black.
I hope my spelling was ok?
NM_HighPlains
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Mt Lions, Ocelots, Margays, Jaguarundis, Lynx and Babcats are not black.
I hope my spelling was ok?
Well..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Nothing wrong with a spelling mistake here and there, I'm just pointing out that a tagline that prints every time one makes a post is an easily correctible thing. However, I also was afraid that my point wouldn't be taken kindly.
I KNOW that there are no black cats in the US, but what exactly was my VA friend seeing? He gave a pretty good description of the thing and he has neither the knowledge nor need to make something like that up. I mean, he's a banjo player!
However, here's an interesting story... many years ago, my grandmother told me she'd just seen a "baby mountain lion" in her front yard (her front "yard" is attached to a 17,000 acre ranch, BTW). Well, of course, I'm skeptical because baby mountain lions just don't go wandering off into the middle of the plains w/out their mommas. However, the way she described it- brown, long tail, long legs, walked pretty fast...man, I didn't have a clue. She's seen more coyotes than all of us put together, so I didn't think it wasn't that. A week or so after she told me that, we were visiting and as I was driving out the driveway, guess what I saw crossing the road about 200 yds in front of us? Yup. Something brown, long tail, long-legged, moving fast. "What is THAT?!" So, I got on the gas, got up there, jumped out and you know what it was? A badger! I've seen lots of badgers, but they've always been flattened out or digging. Up to that point, I'd never seen one actually get up and move. They've got surprisingly long legs and long tails when they get up and stretch out. However, if I hadn't run the thing down, I guarantee I'd still be wondering what it was.
As for black mountain lions, as far as I know (and there was a HUGE "discussion" about this on the archery forum), and FWIW, such a thing has never been "documented". No dead cats, no pictures, nothing...
Mt Lions, Ocelots, Margays, Jaguarundis, Lynx and Babcats are not black.
I hope my spelling was ok?
Well..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Nothing wrong with a spelling mistake here and there, I'm just pointing out that a tagline that prints every time one makes a post is an easily correctible thing. However, I also was afraid that my point wouldn't be taken kindly.
I KNOW that there are no black cats in the US, but what exactly was my VA friend seeing? He gave a pretty good description of the thing and he has neither the knowledge nor need to make something like that up. I mean, he's a banjo player!
However, here's an interesting story... many years ago, my grandmother told me she'd just seen a "baby mountain lion" in her front yard (her front "yard" is attached to a 17,000 acre ranch, BTW). Well, of course, I'm skeptical because baby mountain lions just don't go wandering off into the middle of the plains w/out their mommas. However, the way she described it- brown, long tail, long legs, walked pretty fast...man, I didn't have a clue. She's seen more coyotes than all of us put together, so I didn't think it wasn't that. A week or so after she told me that, we were visiting and as I was driving out the driveway, guess what I saw crossing the road about 200 yds in front of us? Yup. Something brown, long tail, long-legged, moving fast. "What is THAT?!" So, I got on the gas, got up there, jumped out and you know what it was? A badger! I've seen lots of badgers, but they've always been flattened out or digging. Up to that point, I'd never seen one actually get up and move. They've got surprisingly long legs and long tails when they get up and stretch out. However, if I hadn't run the thing down, I guarantee I'd still be wondering what it was.
As for black mountain lions, as far as I know (and there was a HUGE "discussion" about this on the archery forum), and FWIW, such a thing has never been "documented". No dead cats, no pictures, nothing...
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Hey Highplains,
I hate to tell you this, but Jeff has the correct usage of the contraction "you're". It is "short" for you are, "your" is the possessive form. One thing I learned in school was a pretty good knowledge of the English language, and I am a pretty good speller, too.
kevlars
Sorry Highplains,
I see that you corrected Jeff correctly. I guess it was my dislexia acting up again.
kevlars
I hate to tell you this, but Jeff has the correct usage of the contraction "you're". It is "short" for you are, "your" is the possessive form. One thing I learned in school was a pretty good knowledge of the English language, and I am a pretty good speller, too.
kevlars
Sorry Highplains,
I see that you corrected Jeff correctly. I guess it was my dislexia acting up again.
kevlars
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NM_HighPlains
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I hate to tell you this, but Jeff has the correct usage of the contraction "you're".
Now he does.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
Let's get back to this black painter thing... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
What did the forester see? Fisher? Black fox maybe?? An escaped melanistic jaquar? (you'd think someone would report that, wouldn't you? ring...ring...Hello, Animal Control. Yes, I'd like to report a missing jaguar...)
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif I'm curious about this thing.
I hate to tell you this, but Jeff has the correct usage of the contraction "you're".
Now he does.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
Let's get back to this black painter thing... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
What did the forester see? Fisher? Black fox maybe?? An escaped melanistic jaquar? (you'd think someone would report that, wouldn't you? ring...ring...Hello, Animal Control. Yes, I'd like to report a missing jaguar...)
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif I'm curious about this thing.
I don't want to hear ain't no black cats in America.
About 20 years Ago I had been hearing about black panthers in Ohio i didn't believe it. One night driving down the road my wife and i decided to drive home by way of this persons house that had made claims of seeing and hearing these cats.Sure enough we got the chance to see a Big Black Cat [panther,lion,cougar,ect....]it was cat and it was big.So when someone tells me they have seen something in the wild I might be a little skeptical,but never walk away thinking they are a liar.
Bill
About 20 years Ago I had been hearing about black panthers in Ohio i didn't believe it. One night driving down the road my wife and i decided to drive home by way of this persons house that had made claims of seeing and hearing these cats.Sure enough we got the chance to see a Big Black Cat [panther,lion,cougar,ect....]it was cat and it was big.So when someone tells me they have seen something in the wild I might be a little skeptical,but never walk away thinking they are a liar.
Bill
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don't take skepticism as calling someone a liar.
I have to say that the va state agency will never
admit to having cougars until one attacks the govenor
at the annual picnic. They don't want to have to spend the funds to manage it..would you. The fact that it was black
furthur compounds the issue.Fishers are just not that big.
order: CARNIVORA
family: MUSTELIDAE
genus: MARTES
species: pennanti
The Fisher is a medium size member of the mustelid family often compared to the American Marten, a slightly smaller mustelid, due to many shared habits and characteristics. The "fisher-cat" is neither much of a fish catcher nor is it a member of the cat family though it does resemble a house cat in general body size and shape, but the fisher has shorter legs and a longer, wedge- shaped snout. The fur on a fisher is dark brown to black, as an animal ages the hair tips may become ‘frosted’, especially around the head and shoulders. They molt in the fall. Males generally have coarser hair coats, this makes the females more desirable to trappers. Their bodies measure 20 - 30 inches with an additional 13 - 17 inches of tail and weigh from 3 - 12 pounds. Males are usually significantly larger than the females. Tracks reveal 5 toes in a plantigrade foot averaging 3 in. wide by 4.5 in. long with thick fur on the soles of their feet in winter. The nails are at least partially retractable though not sheathed and the mustelid, 2x2 bounding gate is most common with fisher track patterns. (see tracking section for illustrations)
If your friend is of sound mind and isn't prone to sampling the areas mushrooms than take him at his word.
So what did your friend see.. hmm.. I don't know..
He says a black panther than it probably was a
loose pet.
He should have tried the here Kitty Kitty approach.
I have to say that the va state agency will never
admit to having cougars until one attacks the govenor
at the annual picnic. They don't want to have to spend the funds to manage it..would you. The fact that it was black
furthur compounds the issue.Fishers are just not that big.
order: CARNIVORA
family: MUSTELIDAE
genus: MARTES
species: pennanti
The Fisher is a medium size member of the mustelid family often compared to the American Marten, a slightly smaller mustelid, due to many shared habits and characteristics. The "fisher-cat" is neither much of a fish catcher nor is it a member of the cat family though it does resemble a house cat in general body size and shape, but the fisher has shorter legs and a longer, wedge- shaped snout. The fur on a fisher is dark brown to black, as an animal ages the hair tips may become ‘frosted’, especially around the head and shoulders. They molt in the fall. Males generally have coarser hair coats, this makes the females more desirable to trappers. Their bodies measure 20 - 30 inches with an additional 13 - 17 inches of tail and weigh from 3 - 12 pounds. Males are usually significantly larger than the females. Tracks reveal 5 toes in a plantigrade foot averaging 3 in. wide by 4.5 in. long with thick fur on the soles of their feet in winter. The nails are at least partially retractable though not sheathed and the mustelid, 2x2 bounding gate is most common with fisher track patterns. (see tracking section for illustrations)
If your friend is of sound mind and isn't prone to sampling the areas mushrooms than take him at his word.
So what did your friend see.. hmm.. I don't know..
He says a black panther than it probably was a
loose pet.
He should have tried the here Kitty Kitty approach.
If you noticed I did say catsss Not just 1 cat if it was someones pets you think they would have known about that.I have heard stories of these cats from oldtimers going back as far as the 50's and 60's and when the coal compianies moved in and striped the land chased a lot of widlife out now that the land has grown up with briars and trees the wildlife is moving in and staying around now.
Bill
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don't take skepticism as calling someone a liar.
Right. That was the point of my badger story. When my grandmother said "baby cougar", I was skeptical but she's no liar. It was just a case of mistaken identity and I didn't see it as a badger until it turned and flattened.
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I have to say that the va state agency will never
admit to having cougars until one attacks the govenor
at the annual picnic.
LOL!!!! Yeah, I agree... I worked as a wildlife biologist for about 15 years and believe me, I saw some things in the field that I was POSITIVE on the ID, only to get back to the office and find they officially don't occur in a 4 state area of which I was in the center. We're talking pileated woodpeckers in the middle of New Mexico- not your typical "escaped pet".
Still...you'd think someone would've shot one of these black cats by now.
don't take skepticism as calling someone a liar.
Right. That was the point of my badger story. When my grandmother said "baby cougar", I was skeptical but she's no liar. It was just a case of mistaken identity and I didn't see it as a badger until it turned and flattened.
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I have to say that the va state agency will never
admit to having cougars until one attacks the govenor
at the annual picnic.
LOL!!!! Yeah, I agree... I worked as a wildlife biologist for about 15 years and believe me, I saw some things in the field that I was POSITIVE on the ID, only to get back to the office and find they officially don't occur in a 4 state area of which I was in the center. We're talking pileated woodpeckers in the middle of New Mexico- not your typical "escaped pet".
Still...you'd think someone would've shot one of these black cats by now.
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