Black panther video!

Ive lived in Arizona for all of my 54 years, and have never heard any discredit to Jags roaming north from down south in mexico?
But...like you say, there are pictures of jaguars, which do occasionally range up north this far, but remember, jaguars are aquatic cats, and Arizona is not really an aquatic terrain, they are not indigenous to Arizona, they just poke their noses up this way now and again.
As far as black mountain lions, or pumas,or panthers or catamounts....ther are NO pictures, No hides,No carcasses, No bones....No nothing in regards to their existence.....in fact; there are no black mountain lions, except in the fertile imaginations of someones third uncle or great grandfater...they just don't exist period!
 
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Yall need to take another look at the video apparently. The camera doesn't go from the cat to the deer throughout the entire video. When the jaguar/leapord enters the woods then the camera pans to the deer. The camera cuts/jumps around due to editing the video. Segments where nothing was being filmed were cut out.

It isn't a cougar as can you can plainly see that it is black. So this panther is either a jag or a leapord! I was told a biologist examined the video and concluded it was an african leapord due to the way it walked.

I assume it is an escaped pet.

On the black bobcat talk. There have been a handful of black bobcats confirmed. Always from the same area of Florida. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1887921/posts
 
The possibility for escaped exotic cats is very real, and has happened on occasion. There are usually quickly recovered as they have been either pets or otherwise in captivity and do not typically know how to fend for themselves. These are also usually either tatooed or otherwise marked (micro chips, etc).

No one has disputed the existance of black leapords or black jaguars.

Black mountain lions on the other hand are very disputed and have not been proven to exist.

NONYA, I don't know why you are so critical of text books. Are you afraid to learn something? Or do you already know it all?

Sure, there a lot of stuff you can learn that isn't in a book, but there is a whole lot more you can learn that is in a book or other resource.
 
Pause the video at about 30 seconds & compare the size of the cat to the broomsage on the right of the screen.
Most of the time that grass will be around 24" tall, the cat is no where near that size.

I say a big feral.
 
Very questionable. The video gave a "bigfoot" apperance.

I hear people saying regularly that they say they have "black panthers" on their property. The locals see them all the time...see them at dark...etc. Melanistic Jaguars do occur. Jaguars do migrate from Mexico to the southern states. But the only probable reasoning for these black cats is these crazy people that get a pet black jaguar, and they escape. I have never heard of a black leopard as the website states, but there is no reason to doubt that.

The black house cat looks like BS. Possible mix b/w bobcat and house cat, or just a huge wild black house cat. There has yet to be solid proof of melanistic mountain lions existing.
 
Black jaguar (melanistic)

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Notice that you can still see the underlying spots.

Black leopard (melanistic)

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Again notice the underlying spots are visible.

Melanistic cougar

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There are no authenticated cases of truly melanistic Cougars. Black Cougars have been reported in Kentucky, one of which had a paler belly. There have also been reports of glossy black Cougars from Kansas and eastern Nebraska. These are known as the North American Black Panther (NABP). None have ever been photographed or shot in the wild, and none have been bred. There is wide consensus among breeders and biologists that the animal does not exist and is a cryptid. Sightings are current attributed to mistaken species identification by non feline experts, and memetic exaggeration of size.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther

Here is another interesting site

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/black.html
 
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I disagree with the possibility that it is a house cat. Here are two frames of the video merged into one picture.

***TWO SEPEARATE FRAMES***

The panther is well behind the deer. Many many yards but would have to be a very very large house cat if it was moved farward and not enlarged at all.

Said another way. The cat is going to appear smaller because it is farther away. Things get smaller as the distance increases. But the panther is already the size of a house cat are even too big to be house cat even before you take into consideration the fact that the panther is beyond the buck.

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I just think it's a hoax job. The video screams it. The fuzzyness along with it being broken up into weird clips makes it very suspicious.
 
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SO THERFORE THE CAT CANT WEIGH 150



The deer just looks a bigger to me, and not just because he is closer. Plus, the "merged" photo is just that. In the video, there cat isn't there when the deer is in that position.
 
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In the video, there cat isn't there when the deer is in that position.



What does that have to do with the size. The picture are merged as stated so you can see both for size comparison.

I agree the deer looks bigger than the panther. Deer is probably 175ish. Leapord looks to be about 120 to me.
 
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