Bloody Cock Fights

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Locohead

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I have kinda been getting a kick out of the controversial issues lately. There seems to be an awful lot of them.

Two summers ago we took a vacation to Mexico. There I saw one of the coolest things I've ever seen. I witnessed this poor little rooster getting his "el hiney-o" majorly "el kickified-o" by the big ol' rooster. Then at the last minute the underdog pulled a major Karate Kid on the big fella. Just as the winning cock approached for the kill, the smaller one leaped up in the air and kicked his razor covered spur, and slashed the big boy's neck. BLOOD everywhere.

It was pretty cool man. Of course, I am totally against it though. LOL
 
I grew up in Higley, AZ (very rural/hispanic). It was common for the Mexican kids to wear their family's cock fighting business T-shirt to school. I also had neighbors who raised and fought their chickens. It was a common family business.

Considering that the chicken is possibly the most exploited animal on the planet... I don't have a problem if people raise them for cock fighting. Fighting roosters are pampered and extremely well cared for. Consider the career choices that a chicken has: Lay eggs until you can't lay any more then get killed, go straight to KFC, or get your own little place where you are well cared for and go fight every so often. HMMMM, Fight or be a Pot-Pie??? Tough one.

I don't condone it, but I don't condemn it either. And I think that it was ludicrous for AZ to outlaw it. It hurt some families incomes big time.
 
I have kinda been getting a kick out of the controversial issues lately. There seems to be an awful lot of them
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Loco, it seems to me that "controversy" is a little lopsided here. I haven't read anything that I considered "over the edge". But maybe that's because I haven't spent my life inside a sterile, protective, plastic bubble. People who get outraged and indignant over chicken fighting (for example) probably have led a very sheltered and narrow visioned lifestyle. Their limited, or non-existent, exposure to other cultures accounts for their ignorance on the subject, but is no excuse for their intolerance of the practice. To condemn someone for indulging in a common cultural pastime, only exposes the shallowness of their own character.
 
Having once been a cockfighter myself, I still have a fondness for it. People think it's the bloodlust that a cockfighter enjoys.
Horsecrap........it's the bravery of those litte warriors.

There's not another animal on the face of this earth as game as a gamecock. The only way to make them quit fighting is to stop their heart from beating. They can take multiple and I do mean multiple wounds from the gaff or knife and keep on fighting like a champion.

George Washington was a cockfighter, as well as Thomas Jefferson I believe.
Abraham Lincoln use to referee cockfights. He was asked to outlaw it one time and he replied something like this. As long as men can continue to kill one another and it be looked upon with approval, I'll not deny the gamecock that priveledge as well.
Something like that.

As mentioned before, if I was a chicken and had my choice of what kind I wanted to be:
1. A laying hen that is confined in a hanging pen their entire life, crowded in with several others, my feet never touching the ground and then when I started to molt, be turned into Campbells Chicken Noodle soup.
2. A meat chicken that gets to live 6 to 10 weeks and then killed and sent to KFC.
3. A gamecock that gets wormed monthly, the best food money can buy, a spacious place to live with a few hens in with me for fun, and then when I get to be two years old get to fight a couple times a year for my living. If I win I go back to being pampered and if I lose at least I died doing what I do and got to die fighting for my life instead of having my head chopped off with no hope for survival.

Hmmmmmmmmmm?.........I think I'll take...uh.....#3! A gamecock.

James
 
OK Bopeye, you're draggin' it out of me. I'm takin' the bait. Cockfighting is old. There is stone tablet evidence of it in Persia dating back 6,000 yrs. ago.
As a kid in a family of 5, we didn't have much. Just my Dad's sailor pension check. From age 12 to 17, I made money with my animals. Raised rabbit, sold the meat and pelts. Same with ducks, chickens, turkeys, and pigeons. Sold most of the meat to local restaurants. The price was right, so they didn't ask for an FDA Cert. Sold eggs from a roadside stand in the eucalyptus trees on Western Ave. Duck eggs make the BEST pancakes and waffles, did'ja know that? Everybody wanted my turkeys at Thanksgiving time.

I also raised homing pigeons, that I raced for money. Fifty bucks a race was good money, when I won. But my pride was my gamefowl. I had 5 roosters. Blacks, Greys, Minorkas, and a long, tall, red and yellow one that kicked butt.
In my general neighborhood we had rednecks, Mexican, Japanese, and Philippino kids. And they liked their chickens, too. We didn't really "hang out" together, but we got together. The whole neighborhood knew what "Kai Chon" meant. Everybody and their uncle would show up. There would be as many as 150 people in the backyard.
We didn't use blades or spikes, just natural spurs. Of course, we tuned them up with a fingernail file. We did not fight to the death. Sometimes a bird would be killed, but we were always sorry when it happened. Well, usually. The fight was over when one cock would run and not fight, laid down and not fight, or the owner called it off.
It was not just the money we could make, the audience exchanged lots more $$ than we made. It was the pride and recognition we had in the neighborhood. A fond childhood memory.
OK, so I guess I just spiked another nail in my coffin on this board. So much for my image of political correctness, lol.

edit: We also had fish fights, spider fights, and preying mantis fights. Don't forget, this was before video games, Galleria Malls, and cafe latte. Entertainment took a little more creativity than "pushing a button".

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Locohead. i love it man, you just love stiring the pot. If you ever get over on the western slope of our great state lets hook up. lots of critters need thinnin, and i got the ground to hunt. keep your socks up
 
Man Nasa, don't even know what a minorka is, but it sounds cool.
I mostly had Hatch, kelso, and greys with a butcher and roundhead to even everything out.

Gotta have some $$$ to make it in that sport though. It's kinda like horse racing. The guys with the most money can buy the best chickens or horses. Not always, but usually.

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Not the victory, but the action. Not the goal, but the game. In the deed
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It doesn't get the audiences, or the big money it once did, but is still very much alive. At least on the East Coast. I am too new to the West to be privy to much secret stuff here.
 
Lots of people in the Dallas area still raise fighting cocks and go to Oklahoma and Louisiana to fight them where it is still legal. I think one of the biggest reasons for them being outlawed in other states is becuase of the money that exchanges hands, tax free... Uncle Sam apparently couldnt find a way to police the sport so decided to outlaw it instead... LOL Just my opinion...

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Bopeye, we used to call them rosecombed Minorka's, but I think today they are known as roundheads. We didn't always fight for money, either. Sometimes it was for a bird, a clutch of eggs, or breeding rights. That's how we improved our stock.
 
Awesome thread!
Strange... just yesterday, the future BIL and myself were driving around looking for turkeys and deer (in the snow!) and that subject came up.
I think I saw something on one of our local news-stations over the weekend about a 'bust' of a game-cock ring...
Besides Looo si anna, where else on the East Coast is it legal?
 
its still legal in New Mexico, I was at one a few weeks ago, theres big money, just raising and selling, the cocks.
 
Some people still raise and fight them in SC I think. However it is illegal. I think the reason it is illegal has been nailed. They couldn't find a way to tax it.

I can remember my neighbor having them when I was a kid. I saw him "spar" some of them to weed out the runners. I have never seen a gaff or knife fight. I saw an article in the newspaper where some hispanic fellas got "busted" for cockfighting around here. Boy those cops really go after the bad guys don't they? Rapers, drug dealers, murderers, and child molesters are nothing compared to some good ol boys fighting some chickens in a barn. The police's bravery is noble and just, I tell you.
 
Good link, Robb. Thanks. Once again, it's the AR activists who are behind the disappearance of our rights and privileges.
 
Obviously a biased idiot wrote that.

If you could jack 'em up with testosterone and make them fight then why not just use Rhode Island Reds.

Sad part is that the uniformed masses will buy into their garbage.



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James D. Holbrook
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Not the victory, but the action. Not the goal, but the game. In the deed
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