Bobcats, and letting a coyote pass

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During deer season (rifle) I was sitting on a spot, where I killed a bobcat last year. On this paticular day another bobcat happened to come through, which I let pass. (It was out of season, and the rifle load would have rendered the pelt useless).

Because I had shot a bobcat last year, and had a friend who would really like to shoot one I invited him out. Within 3-5 minutes of calling two coyotes showed up. One was desperssed of. My question is: what are the chances of still calling in a bobcat, if you let the Coyote go? Will bobcats follow after a coyote has been in? I am sure there are a lot in the area.

boh
 
From what I understand about bobcats, if you take a coyote early in the stand a cat will still come in, I have read often of guys calling both in on the same stand. Some of the cats I have shot dont' seem to be to bothered by a shot, even had one let me shoot twice at him. so if you figure a cat may still be 30 minutes out a shot will not bother him, and you can assume cats have come into distress sounds as the result of a coyotes killing a rabbit. I don't belive they have the same type relationship as fox and coyote do.

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I'd take the bird(coyote) in the hand and keep calling or return another day with a different sound for the cat. Cats usually travel a circuit and the cat you were after may not have even been in the area that day.
 
But the answer is......

We really don't know when the DID NOT come in so.....

When hunting for cats, hunt for cats.
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Paul
 
bobcat,
Shoot the coyote and keep calling! If the cat is in the area he will come and not pay any attention to the gunshot. More coyotes will come too for that matter.

If you call a cat and do not get a shot at him, just come back the next day or the same day and you can call him again with the same sound. Bobcats are cats. They just can't help themselves. Lions will do the same. They are just a puddy cat in a big body, and will respond because they just have to!
Steve

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Bobcat,
He of course is talking about those STUPID desert cats...

Soooooooo hungry, they will eat sand if it made sound. You of course are dealing with a real hunter.
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Paul

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An old trapper once told me, "A cat, is a cat,is a cat" I have found this to be true. They all like the same areas. They all have the same habits. They all have one exception that seperates them from other cats. I too shot at a bobcat, missed, cat looked around where the bullet hit, with a "whatintheheckwasthat" look, and sat still until I threw the bolt and dumped him. I've never called in a cat behind a coyote, but these guys are at LEAST as expiernced as I am. And if they say it happens, I believe them. I always hunted like coyotes or fox at one stand and bobcats had their own stand. I will change tactics this year and shoot at what comes in. Might not shoot at any coyotes when I'm after Mt. Lion, but we'll see. Good Luck.
 
I've never called in a cat behind a coyote, but these guys are at LEAST as expiernced as I am.

And nor have I. So I can't suggest it.

Paul

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Thanks for all the advice. I am going back this weekend to try again. I think I'll shoot the Coyote if one comes in and then continue to call. One, I have to take the coyote because "One in the hand is better than two in the bush", and two, I'll keep calling to prove a theory and its better than being at work. I'll let you all know.

boh
 
Twice on Randy Anderson's "Verminator" video
bobcats are shot at and missed. Both times they reacted the way Bluedeacon Described.
Both sat right there on their butt until the next shot popped them.
Bob
 
Paul,
Nah, I'm talking about Montana,Washington,Oregon,Calf.,Texas,Wyoming,Utah,Arizona,New Mexico and Colorado bobcats! Every cat I have ever killed had an empty belly! They are all hungry just about all the time.LOL Why do you want to lead this poor fellow down the wrong road?!LOL Didn't you know all bobcats are STUPID!? Besides, What desert cats are you talking about? I'm living and hunting in the 3500 to 9500 fet elevation areas. Didn't know that was considered desert!!!!LOL

Seriously, I have called in a bobcat BEHIND a coyote many times. Most coyotes respond in the first 5 minutes of the stand. Most bobcats rarely show in the first 20 to 30 minutes. I have called a lion in behind a coyote several times as well. Most lions rarely show in the first 1 1/2 hour of a stand. When a lion comes to a call, rest assured his belly is empty too!

Secondly, if you are calling alot of coyotes, you can be sure you ARE NOT in good bobcat and lion habitat.
Steve
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[This message has been edited by Steve Craig (edited 12-04-2001).]
 
Steve, Steve,
You are living in the HIGH desert! LOL

I don't doubt your experience. I am strictly a "day time" caller (by the way) so when we are comparing notes or giving advice I should make that clear.

Why am I acting this way? You have a point and are very keen. Maybe that's why you hunt predators. Your right, I'm just feeling onerous of late and I have been writing those responses with the wrong intentions. I have not said you can’t call a dog and cat on the same stand, it’s been done plenty of times. What I am saying is.......

If you chose to shoot Coyote after waiting for a long set in prime Cat country, you are “decreasing” you chance at a cat. How much of a decrease? I have no idea and I don’t think anyone does.

You do bring up a point I have been preaching to many and I think you’re right on. And that is if your calling a lot of coyotes, you most likely need to find a better spot. Out of the eight cats I called last season, I believe I only had two where dogs came in. One was in the first few seconds and the other was 20 minutes. I always feel better about the set when no dogs show up!

I may be a little pissed off as I am still waiting for my first cat for the year! I have only made 8 sets so far......over an hour each!! Not including travel time!!
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On a positive note, only one dog has showed up. (50 minutes into the set)
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Paul

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[This message has been edited by Predator Paul (edited 12-04-2001).]
 
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