Kelbro, your statement drives home my point. The RN Powerpoint bullets were designed to expand reliably at 30-30 velocities. The heavier spitzers, that can be safely shot in the bolt guns were not designed to function properly at the lower velocities. I am not saying it would not work, but there is a greater potential for failure. When shooting a 30-30, with spitzer type bullets, he willhave to go to the lighter thin skinned bullets to get proper expansion on a more consistant basis.