I just thought I'd share my experience with Boyd's. About a year ago, I placed an order for a short action pepper laminate finished stock for my Ruger .223 I waited for around 5-6 months for them to finish it which I think is pretty normal. After the wait I recieve the box and I couldn't wait to get it to the gunsmith and have him glass bed it for me. Well, I take it to him and he says it's a long action rifle stock. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif So, I called them about it and they did not have a replacement to send me. I returned the wrong stock and placed the order again about 4 months ago. 3 weeks ago, I called them and asked about the status of my order. She told me they are making them right now and they should ship out no later than 2 weeks. Sweet! It's going to get here for hunting season. So, today I made the same call asking about the status of my order. She tells me now that they are on back order and she didn't know when they were going to even start them again. Keep in mind that I already gave them the $180 for the stock. Unfortunately, if I had other options I would take them because this is the only thumbhole stock I've found that will fit my Ruger MKII .223 You guys might think hard about other options other than Boyd's unless you feel like waiting until well into next season or later before you get your stock. The only thing I've received from them is THE RUN-AROUND. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif