Breaking in a barrel?

I tend to break in new factory barreled rifles if I am the original buyer. Most factory barrels are junk, plain and simple. Look at Dan Liljas video on his barrel vs a rem 700 factory barrel or something or another, dont matter, sold me...Factory barrels need it, they will clean up much faster. I recently broke in my new winchester 264 WM for the simple fact that it will give me that "warm fuzzy feeling" that I gave it the best potential to show me what it can do, even if that means sending 40-50 rounds downrange and cleaning and scrubbing for half the day. You can use the 3 and 5 shot groups inbewteen cleaning for load development though, so its not a total waste IMO, depends on how you look at it. Anyways, it rewarded me with under 1/2 MOA groups with 140g AMAX on the 3rd load out of the rifle...Thing is, you'll never know if it woulda done that without breaking in the barrel, as you cant take it back and reverse it, and no 2 barrels are the same. But I think it has been almost clinically proven that they will clean up much easier, which is the real reason why I did it, and since the bigger 6.5s love to copper foul, I figured it was a "smart" thing to do...

I've only owned 2 custom barreled rifles and both are/were shooters, and neither were broken in "properly". I bought a 700 shilen barreled 25-06 at a pawn shop that was ridiculously accurate (consistent 1/2 MOA) with the only 3 bullets I tried in it 100 and 115g NBT, and 115g VLDs, who knows how many rounds or how it was taken care of before I got it? I can tell you that when I brought it home I scrubbed the hel out of it with a nylon brush and sweets though. The other is my 700 HART barreled 338 EDGE. I didn't do the whole break in procedure on this rifle. I shot it a few times, cleaned it, shot it a few more times and cleaned it and that was it, per Shawn Carlock. Rifle drills a 15" plate at 1K w/300g SMKS at 2825fps.

Factory do it, custom barrel dont really worry about it, thats my take anyways.

My break in procedure is shoot 1 shot and clean/scrub after each shot for the first 10 shots. After those 10, I shoot 3 shots and clean/scrub inbetween for the next 20 shots, then I shoot 5 and clean for the last 20. You can load test with the 5 and clean, shots 30-50 anyways. Disreguard the 1st shot due to oil/clean barrel and count the next 4, clean scrub, repeat. So all in all, I'm cleaning/brushing that barrel 20 times out of the first 50 rounds, with the first 10 being the most important brushing after each shot.

Thats how I do it anyways and I've been rewarded with some ridiculously super accurate factory sporter barreled rifles over the years...
 
I always build a fire the night before going to the range with a new rifle, bless my ammo and rifle with silver sage smoke and dance around the fire at dawn while naked, juggling the three holy chipmunks, and chanting...I don't know if it does any good, but all of my rifles subjected to this ritual are sub-moa shooters... Just sayin....
 
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HAHAHAHAHA!
That was priceless.
You know where i can find 3 holy chimpmunks for cheap..looking for some for my next build!

Originally Posted By: Jayhawker27I always build a fire the night before going to the range with a new rifle, bless my ammo and rifle with silver sage smoke and dance around the fire at dawn while naked, juggling the three holy chipmunks, and chanting...I don't know if it does any good, but all of my rifles subjected to this ritual are sub-moa shooters... Just sayin....
 
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Again,its the warm fuzzy you get with the "proper"(your way) way of breaking in a barrel.
Whats the "proper" way of breaking in a barrel again?
The company selling you the barrel's recommendations?
Be Wary...Remember their job is the "selling" part..
Who's to say running 45,250 patches down the barrel the first day is the best thing for a barrel.
Hence the GREAT debate..shoot they are even beating the guy that was beating the dead horse!
Not knocking your opinion or nothing just add libbing..ahhh gotta stop!
Keep at em!





Originally Posted By: kyotekiller25I tend to break in new factory barreled rifles if I am the original buyer. Most factory barrels are junk, plain and simple. Look at Dan Liljas video on his barrel vs a rem 700 factory barrel or something or another, dont matter, sold me...Factory barrels need it, they will clean up much faster. I recently broke in my new winchester 264 WM for the simple fact that it will give me that "warm fuzzy feeling" that I gave it the best potential to show me what it can do, even if that means sending 40-50 rounds downrange and cleaning and scrubbing for half the day. You can use the 3 and 5 shot groups inbewteen cleaning for load development though, so its not a total waste IMO, depends on how you look at it. Anyways, it rewarded me with under 1/2 MOA groups with 140g AMAX on the 3rd load out of the rifle...Thing is, you'll never know if it woulda done that without breaking in the barrel, as you cant take it back and reverse it, and no 2 barrels are the same. But I think it has been almost clinically proven that they will clean up much easier, which is the real reason why I did it, and since the bigger 6.5s love to copper foul, I figured it was a "smart" thing to do...

I've only owned 2 custom barreled rifles and both are/were shooters, and neither were broken in "properly". I bought a 700 shilen barreled 25-06 at a pawn shop that was ridiculously accurate (consistent 1/2 MOA) with the only 3 bullets I tried in it 100 and 115g NBT, and 115g VLDs, who knows how many rounds or how it was taken care of before I got it? I can tell you that when I brought it home I scrubbed the hel out of it with a nylon brush and sweets though. The other is my 700 HART barreled 338 EDGE. I didn't do the whole break in procedure on this rifle. I shot it a few times, cleaned it, shot it a few more times and cleaned it and that was it, per Shawn Carlock. Rifle drills a 15" plate at 1K w/300g SMKS at 2825fps.

Factory do it, custom barrel dont really worry about it, thats my take anyways.

My break in procedure is shoot 1 shot and clean/scrub after each shot for the first 10 shots. After those 10, I shoot 3 shots and clean/scrub inbetween for the next 20 shots, then I shoot 5 and clean for the last 20. You can load test with the 5 and clean, shots 30-50 anyways. Disreguard the 1st shot due to oil/clean barrel and count the next 4, clean scrub, repeat. So all in all, I'm cleaning/brushing that barrel 20 times out of the first 50 rounds, with the first 10 being the most important brushing after each shot.

Thats how I do it anyways and I've been rewarded with some ridiculously super accurate factory sporter barreled rifles over the years...

 
Originally Posted By: Overwatcher

You know where i can find 3 holy chimpmunks for cheap..looking for some for my next build!

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They're all over the place...look just like regular chipmunks except they wear little robes...
 
Ok so I talked to the guy at the range again and asked why to break it in again? he said the same stuff then I asked about all the copper fouling cleaners. does that not get everything out I asked? anyway long story short I just kept asking a question in response to his answers I eventually asked him if he knew about the barrel maker Gale McMillan? Oh yeah makes some great barrels a blah blah blah. Then I told him that he argues the fact of breaking in a barrel and that we both could find things on the net that proved our points. He then told me "well then Joe, I guess do it if it makes you feel good. What really can it hurt to break them in? Not like you can go back and do it 200 rounds later. And if after all those rounds something is wrong with the barrel you have no way of knowing if was or wasn't you breaking or not breaking it in."

After we agreed to disagree we started debating about non important topics such as religion and global warming.
 
Now,,i have never broken in a barrel,,but i do "break in" a new AR,,or a new AR bolt and carrier,,,i add some light cutting oil,,sit around racking it and slapping it shut about 200 times.

Then i tear it down hosing out all the shavings....saves shooting alot of ammo.......X
 
Originally Posted By: dmpowderI really wish I could be at the range to see someone do this "Barrel break in" thing it would be a blast to see.
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I see it all the time. what would you say just our of curiosity?
 
well it was too late to worry before I even bought the gun (used with 30 rds already down). I was just curious what one would say. after all I am a fellow smart a$$ myself.
 
Originally Posted By: dmpowderI really wish I could be at the range to see someone do this "Barrel break in" thing it would be a blast to see.
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They tie up a shooting position forever...BANG...scrub scrub scrub...BANG, scrub scrub scrub BANG, scrub, scrub, etc etc etc...
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As said before.. without a bore scope.. What are you doing? Just guessing.. Maybe it is perfect from the start.. Maybe it was rough.. without being able to see down the bore, you are just guessing..
 
I would recommend checking out Dan Lilja's website. He makes mighty fine barrels and knows a little bit about proper break in of lapped barrels. JM2CW
 
Originally Posted By: UncleDocI would recommend checking out Dan Lilja's website. He makes mighty fine barrels and knows a little bit about proper break in of lapped barrels. JM2CW

Yeah he promotes barrel break in procedures. Oh well. I did not break it in and cannot go back so yup.
 
Originally Posted By: UtahShootergreat read. Here is what the guy at the range is quoted by me as saying. "the copper will get into the pores if you dont clean it every shot for the first 20. you want the carbon to build up in there not the copper."

Just wondering, How does one get the copper out and leave the carbon?
 


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