Browning A- bolt ???

I just got one a couple weeks back......I am very satisfied with it. It is the A-Bolt composite stalker in .243.....shoots like a house on fire, handy and light....


Joe
 
Sounds like some good honest answers.
Lots of Browning owners out there!!

The Japan made, has been a hang up of mine. I might just have too get over that!

Just like my deal with Savages............In the past they have always been ugly and sloppy in the bolt. However very accurate. Sorry guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

If Remington made a .300wsm in a blued & walnut BDL, I would not be looking at anything else!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif
Thanks for the help..............

Tim /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Buzz Bee not that the A bolt was belguim made, just that they went with cheaper labor in Japan but yet don't pass any of that labor savings or metal savings on to the customers. Plus YES I like to buy american and who can really fault an 870 or 700 2 of the most repsected guns in there form ever to be made. From Police, swat and military uses to many hunters afield toating these guns. If you like them buy them I guess but remington has served me very well through the years.

I still have my dad's auto belguim made and shoots like it came from the box. Why did they decide to go to Japan made anyways? I'm sure 100% cost savings. I do have a buck mark trap line pistol that shoots nice.
 
"just that they went with cheaper labor in Japan"
Not so.
The reason for Japanese manufacture is for their efficiency and quality control. The cost of labor is several times higher in Japan than in the US.

Jack
 
Jack Roberts tell me exactly how Japaneese labor is several times higher? Also explain how there quailty control is better than US metal workers? I would love these details thank you.
 
I am old enough, have enough background and knowledge to know a nice rifle when I see/shoot it. I too love Remington/Winchester/Savage/ and a host of others, having owned/shot a couple hundred or so, and been issued many more...(Police/Swat for 25 years). I guess I misunderstood the original question. I thought it was about a Browning A-Bolt....mine shoots very well, carries very well, and I like it....I also like all the others in my safe, or they wouldn't be there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks,

Joe
 
Japanese labor is above and away better than the U.S. and without a doubt better than any belgian as well. And its not cheaper, hell the cost of living over there would amaze most people. THere quality control is second to none, if any of you have ever heard of 6 sigma, it came from Japan, its a quality control system that Caterpillar integrated to make them what they are today. Why is it their cars are beating ford and chevy into the ground? I dont like it, but it is what it is. Browning guns are better now than they have ever been, My 86 Jap A-5 is a better shooter and more mechanically sound than my Grandads 54 Belgian A-5, though it doesnt look quite as good. FYI, they went to Japan in 76 on the A-5's, but you can still get certain guns from Belgium instead of Japan, mostly custom shop stuff.
 
Jack is correct about the Japanese labor is more efficient, which in term is why more American companies including Browning are outsourcing to foreign labor and I can
t blame them.
Japanese labor worker generally have a better working attitude, they works 6days a week take less breaks and they love their jobs, they have less holidays, they don’t have the unions working ageist the employers, factory’s in Japan don’t have the mega lawsuits and worker’s comp as overhead, employee health care cost far less in Japan, need I say more.
I don’t have any problem buying American, but I don’t like to give my hard earned money to the lawyers and insurance companies. You know the funny thing is; most of the top Japanese managements in Japan are U.S educated.


Companies are in business to make money, they need to do what make scense or they won't be around tomorrow, just take a good look at Colt & Ithica.
 
Browning has always outsourced, Weatherby too and others. Many marketing companies for all sorts of products have never owned a factory.
Japan builds some good stuff, no doubt about it, but sometimes I think the some of the products aren't really any better, the consumer assumes they are better and no one compares. I have no problem with any place making a better product, I'll use it. give credit where credit is due.

CD
 
In my and others experience A-bolt triggers only adjust down to 4 or 5 pounds without aftermarker fixes. Their trigger and bolt are over complicated not to mention all the pot metal parts, more than other rifles. I have seen more than a couple guides mention how vulnerable their trigger is to corosion and failure to fire....even in a day or twos time as well as pot metal trigger guards and triggers breaking where other manufactures pot metal parts don't. They are very accurate however. FWIW
 
I've had an A-Bolt Medallion in .270 for almost 20 years. I love it for all of the reasons the others have mentioned above, BUT it has one major fault - vertical shot stringing.

What I mean is that 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. shots will print quite a bit lower than the first cold-bore shot. For an entire season this had me miffed...would spend an hour ur two sighting it in on the range, then come back next week and it would shoot 1-1.5" higher at 100 yds. than when I last sighted it in.

I think it's probably due to the really thin barrel, though, so there's not much you can do about it other than be aware of where that first shot will hit and then compensate for any follow-up shots.
 
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Jack Roberts tell me exactly how Japaneese labor is several times higher? Also explain how there quailty control is better than US metal workers? I would love these details thank you.



I visited Japan in 1999 and at that time a can of Coke out of the vending machine in Tokyo was $1.25 and in the US was 50 cents or less.
In several Tokyo grocery stores I visited a pound of tuna was $20 while back home in Texas I got them from Kroger for $6 anytime of the day. You don't even want to know the price tag on beef. During the three weeks I was there I did not see a single overweight Japanese person.

There is no doubt cost of living, which is closely related to labor cost, in Japan is much higher than the US.
 
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