Burris Full Field Question

Sgt_Mike

Sgt_Mike

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I've never used a Burris although, I have heard some very good things about them. As well as looked through some of the "lesser" product lines they offer.

Mostly I've used Leupold, Nikon's, Schmidt Benders, Kales, and a few other European optics. In the past decades I have settled on Leupold for the balance of price point vs lens quality, and the warranty is the icing on the cake.
Just never have pulled the trigger on buying a Burris until today, even though the "forever warranty" is the same as Leupold, it's on the product not the first owner based on what I read from their website.
The other plus was the external A/O, I do like the external adjustable objective vs the side focus which seems to be the rule today. As it offers a wider range to correctly set the parallax for a given range.

I just won a bid on a Burris Full Field II 6.5-20 x 50mm marked "made in USA" .
Just curious how the lens quality stacks against a VX-series in the same specifications. (6.5 -20 X50mm)
As I'm sure there are members on here whom have used the Burris in the past. And can provide a heads up on what to expect prior to the scope's arrival. Responses to past experiance welcomed. Thank you for taking the time to either respond or read this post in advance.
Respectfully
Mike
 
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This one will probably reside on a rimfire, allowing me to return the Leupold VX-3i 6.5-20 from that rimfire back to the PD AR-15. I pulled it from as a interim while the "backup" is serviced for parallax adjustment.
I've tried to dig further into the exact model for this Burris, but no luck to see the actual specs. But expected / estimated arrival time to my door is the 9th to the 15th. So we will soon see.
The original owner did send it back and have a ballistic plex reticle installed vs the standard duplex it was shipped with, that is a plus.
 
I have had and handled a few fullfield models that the mag adjustment was very stiff especially in sub zero temps. Sent one in, Burris had it 3 months and than returned it saying it was within specs. Scope still had a couple water spots on the objective lens as when I sent it.
 
I got a Fullfield about 20 years ago that turned out to be a very good scope, surprisingly good. It still sits on a 308 that my son sometimes shoots.
 
I have a 3x9x40 fullfield II that came on a rifle I picked up about 15 years ago. Whoever mounted it did an awful job and left heavy ring marks on the tube, but it has remained clear and bright for its price point. It’s held zero fine. I never tried to utilize the Ballistic Plex Reticle. I’m not the biggest fan of the entire occular bell rotating to change magnification as I like to use Butler Creek flip caps. Overall, no complaints, but admittedly it isn’t on one of my main hunting rigs, so it doesn’t see a ton of use.
 
I used to give Burris FF 2-7 scopes as prizes at shoots I put on, everyone liked them.

I tried one not long my after my cataract surgery but couldn't get it clear enough. I gave it to a new predator hunter and he loved it.

I do have a Sig. Select 1.5-6x40 and 4X (Burris Euro scope) 1.5-6x40 that are great scopes
 
spotstalkshoot said:
I have had and handled a few fullfield models that the mag adjustment was very stiff especially in sub zero temps.
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hunt0168 said:
I’m not the biggest fan of the entire occular bell rotating to change magnification as I like to use Butler Creek flip caps. Overall, no complaints,
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I have a number of Burris FFII's on various hunting predator rifles with the Ballistic Plex reticle in both 3-9x40 and 4/5-14x44 and all served me well. As my eyesight diminished, I found the E1 reticle a bit
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was a bit bolder and easier to use and accomplishes the same purpose as the BP reticle, both of which are my preferred reticle for all my hunting chores.
Agree, the magnification adjustment is a bit stiffer than necessary, IMO, and changing ocular bell is not the best for BC lens caps, but I find that I can use the BC cap on the objective lens and place the covers provided with the scope on top of that when not in use. Some rifles I can cant the BC cap on ocular lens and get all the power adjustment I need, others, not so much. No complaints on the glass, either.
Of all the Burris scopes I have owned, only one 4.5-14 gave any problems. It did not track, so sent it back and the issue was handled very promptly and to my satisfaction. IMO they are great scopes, especially at the price point.
 
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@LONEHOWL
on your question I'm not sure if your asking me, or others. For the FF 2 I bought it's not arrived yet so I can't say on the edge clarity, yet.
I've gotten the tracking number, but has not been delivered to USPS yet (probably this evening it should show online).
 
@LONEHOWL
Yes sir will do....
According to the auction site (shipper) it "should" be here between the 9th and the 15th.
Which I'll mate it to the Savage rimfire and then see.
I'm figuring I'll have a reply on the clarity hopefully no later than the 20th/21st depending when I get it on range and shake it out on parallax / tracking etc.
It is supposed to have been mounted only once to sight in a 25-06. Hopefully I didn't overpay (if it's junk in the lens quality, I then overpaid)

If it close to what Hm1996 posted of his above it will be a great buy as from his picture the edge clarity seems to be acceptable.
 
@LONEHOWL
According to USPS, the scope in question is due on the 11th /12th via the tracking, hopefully they don't miss the mark although they have been pretty accurate in the past.
Then it will be mounting and a trip to the range for zeroing /etc , with the Savage MkII which I've probably overposted about.
Just a FYI, so you'll know about how soon I can relay my observations /findings on the scope.
 
The Burris finally made it here yesterday late evening. There was rings attached so I attempted to mount to the rifle it was to be mated to. Yeah the rings that was on it are literal crap, so here shortly I'll head over to the LGS to see about some decent quality rings.
 
@LONEHOWL
Hey bud finally got my things in a row, and ready to say how this Burris is.
(Remember this is a older one, and actually marked "Made In USA" on the eyepiece /ocular.)
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Edge clarity is extremely well I could not notice any distortion around the edges.
Parallax adjustment via the objective was fantastic reminded me of the older Leupolds sharpness. I was able to read the fine print on the target clearly at the 50 yard line at 20X .
Parallax at the ocular (eyepiece) again fantastic Extremely sharp.
Power ring wasn't too stiff, and found it to be acceptable ( I cheated with a little lube before putting it to work, usually it the lube drying out / aging that causes a real stiffness.)
Target knobs was a little mushy , not the worst I've seen, nor the crispest I've handled. But is again acceptable.
Tracking was actually good, went 2" off (vertical and horizontal) fired one shot then shift back (dialed) to the "zero". the accompanying rounds dropped dead back into the groups.
Light gathering here is actually subjective, but being I was out around noon today it was fair, I thought my Leupold gather light better. But again not bad. I'll check it later this evening around dusk to see. If not update it will be acceptable IMO.
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Con's
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Not enough elevation to actually establish a actual true zero at 50 yds much less the desired 75 yards. I wound up using a hold over in the reticle to fire groups. The disadvantage of a 1" tube.
In order to rectify the situation I stopped at a old haunt to pick up some Burris signature Zee rings. (just mounted them, I'll check again, before obtaining the offset inserts)
Now to locate the offset inserts to dial down in LOS, to correct this, and gain back my elevation.
Currently it's bottomed out @50 yards with shots 1" low, no elevation available.
On the Winchester 121, I did not have this problem with a Leupold VX-1 4-12X 40mm 1" tube, I had plenty of elevation to zero correctly.

The only con in the reticle is it's a bit heavy.. kind of ..... it could be a touch thinner for my taste, but Still highly functional.
I suspect most on here would actually like it's thickness. So, not really a con except to me, but it's basically a preference on my end. In the next few years It may be the cat's meow, as my eyes age.
All in all not a terrible buy @ 200.00, I was concerned that there wouldn't be enough elevation, when I got it and looked in the manual & seen the amount of elevation. A 30mm tube would fix this inconvenience.
 
@popper43
what is the height on those rings? med? shoot me some details Man LMAO ... especially if you have the offset inserts for a 1" laying around.. Unless of course @LONEHOWL needs them.

@LONEHOWL
I didn't address this on the scope it's on a 22LR, I'm sure had I mounted in a centerfire this running out of elevation issue would not present it self.
 
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