Burris Fullfield Zero Shift?

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I read a post a while back about the Burris crosshair movement when the back barrel of the scope was moved around. I tried both of my scopes and both have considerable movement when changing power or just putting pressure on the back of the scope. The scope seems to return to zero but I've noticed some shift or in cold weather.

Has anyone else noticed this? I'm a little petty about things like this, do you guys think it's a big deal?

Overall I love the scope and have recommended it to many other people. Now I'm wondering if I've made a huge mistake. All thoughts welcome-
 
I noticed this on my 244 AI back in the summer. When the whole gun was locked in a vise I could move the rear eyepiece up, down, left and right. I was having point of impact problems. Once I noticed this movement I was sure the scope was broken. I took it off and sent it back to Burris. Three weeks later it was returned with a note. This is normal it has no effect on point of impact. As it turned out I was getting bullet strikes at the end of my muzzle brake, which caused the impact problems. Repairing the muzzle brake corrected the impact problem.

Hope this helps.

B..
 
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I have sent 2 scopes back to Burris for this very reason, a 3x9 FFII and an XTR 3x12. I argued with the repair tech about the problem, he pretty much told me I was wrong and the shifting I was seeing with the crosshairs on target wouldnt change POI. He said a few things I didnt like so I told him to tighten the f$*^@#% eyepiece and send it back to me. Its a bad design, you have a lens on the back of the scope that rotates loose on threads and cant be locked.

I was a die hard burris guy,
I have purchased 5 scopes since, none where Burris.

They can kiss my white ###
 
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I have FFII scopes on both my AR,s and one of my bolt guns.They ride on a gun rack on the front of my 4 wheeler , get layed down in the back seat of the pickup and FJ and beat about here and there for years and I have never lost zero and POI has never changed .I do not baby my rifles , they are tools and I use them hard .Maybe I got lucky and got three really good ones LOL. I have used these scopes in 100 degree heat and below zero temps .
Great scope for the money in my mind , I Have two Nikon monarchs sitting in the safe, And sold off my Leupolds and a night force cause i like the burris retical better . jerry
 
Jerry
Next time you shoot across a bench, with your rifle in the rests, wiggle the eyepiece, the cross hairs will shift on your target. Every FFII scope I have used or mounted for others have done this to some extent sometimes small.
 
That is pretty much normal with all scopes. All variables change zero with changing the power, some not too much, some an unacceptable amount. Changing the occular focus will also change zero but usually not as much as changing power. Even putting 1-2 pounds of pressure on the objective bell with your finger will change zero more than you would think.

Jack
 
I also have 2 burris scopes FF2 4.5-14 and a Signature 6-24 no problems so far.The FF2 is on Encore 50 caliber.I shoot a heavy load of triple 7 always holds zero.Same with signature it is on 220 swift custom TC barrel.In my opinion the scope will only hold zero with a good set of rings and bases.I reccomend atleast good Leupold bases and dual dovetail rings.Your scope is only as good as your bases and rings.I hope this helps.
 
I had a FFII I had to send back b/c it wouldn't hold zero. It drive me nuts and had me thinking my CZ550 .243 was bad...That's wasn't the case. I have two Burris scopes and those are the last Burris scopes I'll own. From here out, it is Leupold or Nikon.
 
I have multiple Burris scopes. Two FF2 currently on rifles, and have had four on handguns. I have never experienced the same kind of parallax issues as I have with a Leupold 4.5-14X40mm VX-III for a nominal $500. I guess everyones eyes are a little different, but for the money I'll stand by the Greeley guys.....

I think Leupy is raping the indiscriminate brand specific pukes to death with magazine hype and a few guys who don't understand parallax will post up here and curse the Burris boys as a result. I have never had a Burris optic fail me. I have, however, had a half-a-thousand dollar piece of Leupold crap push me to sportsman's suicide.

JMO
 
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Even putting 1-2 pounds of pressure on the objective bell with your finger will change zero more than you would think.

Jack



Don't ya love watchin' guys "secure" the scope with their offhand while shooting groups off the bench? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I never had problems with my FFIIs, other than their finicky eye relief at high power. They were the older "Made in the USA" Fullfields, not the newer Philipino ones, if that makes any difference...
 
I have 3 Burris FF II scopes and they are great. One is one my wifes 204 and 2 ar on my AR 15s. The ones on the AR are on a removeable mount. Even after being removed and put back on they hold zero. My one AR gets used a lot and is carried on my four wheeler also. I love their scopes. I dont care for Leupold or Sightron though. I have some bushnell banner scopes that are great also. I would take them over the last 2 mentioned scopes also.
 
I am a little confused so someone help me understand this one. The crosshairs are in no way connected to the eyepiece right ? So I can see how the eyepiece moving could change the area of the target you see but the crosshairs should stay in the same place regardless. What am I missing here ?

Thanks, Stan
 
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I am a little confused so someone help me understand this one. The crosshairs are in no way connected to the eyepiece right ? So I can see how the eyepiece moving could change the area of the target you see but the crosshairs should stay in the same place regardless. What am I missing here ?
Thanks, Stan



You have it right. The crosshairs stay the same, the target moves. When the target moves the crosshairs are pointing to a different part of the target.

Jack
 


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