Ended up ordering a Pine Ridge red dot scope from Cabelas.It's 36mm,camo,four different recticles,multicoated lenses and supposedly fog/shock proof.I was also looking at the Mueller red dot holosight-type as well.Anyway I went with the cabelas red dot.If I don't care for it I can always sell it and put my bushnell 1.75 X 4 back on.Just wanted to try a new toy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif