Caliber accuracy

Originally Posted By: travjcOriginally Posted By: SmokelessOriginally Posted By: mchlthmpsn30maybe ill be more invested too when my loads can control wind, temp, humidity, air pressure, and how many other variables that can change flight. in the mean time....dead is dead.


First of all, my loads do all the things that you are complaining about. This is the reason I reload.

You do not reload so your point is mute.[moot]

I am sure that if you GOOGLE 'Hillbilly hunt'n support group" you will find a place to post your thought.[I am sure that there is not more than one.]

These are my thoughts at the moment.

First off, sorry about the correction Smokeless.(Just had to make sure, although mute is very applicable also! LOL)
I'm sure there is some kind of redneck underground that the commoners are un-aware of. Furthermore, I simply would like to know the secrets of taking big game at +300 yards, I was un-aware that my 300 winchester magnum was useful past 100 yards.


I ment Mute. Like when you are watching NASCAR and a commercial comes on and you need a beer, mute the tv, "honey since you wuz up, git me a beer".

Mute mute, not moot like we are having a conversation.
 
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"You do not reload so your point is mute.[moot]"



The right word there is "moot", meaning that it a meaningless or irrelevant statement.

In which case, when someone makes a moot statement, you grab the clicker and mute them
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Originally Posted By: SmokelessOriginally Posted By: mchlthmpsn30maybe ill be more invested too when my loads can control wind, temp, humidity, air pressure, and how many other variables that can change flight. in the mean time....dead is dead.


First of all, my loads do all the things that you are complaining about. This is the reason I reload.

You do not reload so your point is mute.

I am sure that if you GOOGLE "Hillbilly hunt'n support group" you will find a place to post your thought.[I am sure that there is not more than one.]

These are my thoughts at the moment.


Come on now..... I resent that remark.... NOT EVERYONE from the south (REDNECK)or mountains (HILLBILLY) go out blasting deer (or whatever) trying to "get lucky" with a kill shot.... Most of the Tn hunters I know go to great lengths in order to get the most accuracy out of their firearms.... I don't personally reload, but I do spend time at the range to see what factory ammo my guns shoot the best. I like a small group as well....

If I took your comment too serious, my bad..... just saying not many, but there are a few that go to the woods to kill a deer, just go in guns blazing.
 
Originally Posted By: Smokeless

You do not reload so your point is mute.

I am sure that if you GOOGLE 'Hillbilly hunt'n support group" you will find a place to post your thought.[I am sure that there is not more than one.]


It might come as a shock,
but some of us Hillbillies do reload.
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Hey guys lighten up. You know where I'm from and its not bothering me about the comment. What irked me is that clown coming in and trying to get some Walmart sponsorship or something that had nothing to do with this thread at all. Maybe Darwin will catch up.
 
Originally Posted By: UncleDoc"Friggin Engineers"...now wait a minute. When I went to engineering skool it was civil, mechanical, electrical, and industrial only. If they have added a new category I'm signing up for night classes.

Don't forget about us Chemical Engineers!

(Oh yeah, and those others that WISHED they were chemical engineers, like aerospace and nuclear engineers!)
 
Originally Posted By: VarminterrorOriginally Posted By: UncleDoc"Friggin Engineers"...now wait a minute. When I went to engineering skool it was civil, mechanical, electrical, and industrial only. If they have added a new category I'm signing up for night classes.

Don't forget about us Chemical Engineers!

(Oh yeah, and those others that WISHED they were chemical engineers, like aerospace and nuclear engineers!)



I's a rocket surgeon
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Chupa
 
Wow I learned a lot from this thread. I have another question what's so great about a small rifle primer in some of these cartridges like the 6.5x47 lapua.
 
Originally Posted By: devildoggWow I learned a lot from this thread. I have another question what's so great about a small rifle primer in some of these cartridges like the 6.5x47 lapua.


The "burning" of smokeless powder is a two stage process.

When the primer goes off, it supplies heat AND pressure - both are necessary to get smokeless powder going...

... whereas only heat is needed to get black powder going.

When smokeless powder is heated under pressure, it starts by giving off a gas, and it is the gas that "burns", just above (in thousandths of an inch) the surface of the grain.

The flame front stays over the grain, never touching it. The proximity of the flame front to the grain, determines the amount of gas given off, which determines the burning speed.

The closer the flame is to the grain, the more gas is given off, the more gas given off, the more there is to burn, the more that burns, the higher the pressure, the higher the pressure, the more gas that is given off - so the flame front gets closer to the grain, and round and round.

IF, the pressure drops, quickly (as in a short barrel), the flame front will move away from the grains, temperature will drop, no more gas will be given off, and powder stops burning... which is why you can find unburned powder grains in a firearm.

Now, also understand that smokeless powder has a deterrent coating to slow the release of gas in the earliest micro-seconds.

The primer needs to raise the temperature and supply pressure to get the cycle going, and once that is done, then "get out of town"... from that point on, the powder has a designed rate of burning.

"IF" the primer supplies too much heat and pressure, it will change the earliest burning phases and the burning rate will have very minor "micro" changes - not enough to be dangerous, or even be noticeable in a pressure graph, but enough to make benchrest shooters queasy - the differences can only show up in a top of the line benchrest...

... "sometimes".
 
Originally Posted By: Grizzly JohnsonOriginally Posted By: SmokelessOriginally Posted By: mchlthmpsn30maybe ill be more invested too when my loads can control wind, temp, humidity, air pressure, and how many other variables that can change flight. in the mean time....dead is dead.


First of all, my loads do all the things that you are complaining about. This is the reason I reload.

You do not reload so your point is mute.

I am sure that if you GOOGLE "Hillbilly hunt'n support group" you will find a place to post your thought.[I am sure that there is not more than one.]

These are my thoughts at the moment.


Come on now..... I resent that remark.... NOT EVERYONE from the south (REDNECK)or mountains (HILLBILLY) go out blasting deer (or whatever) trying to "get lucky" with a kill shot.... Most of the Tn hunters I know go to great lengths in order to get the most accuracy out of their firearms.... I don't personally reload, but I do spend time at the range to see what factory ammo my guns shoot the best. I like a small group as well....

If I took your comment too serious, my bad..... just saying not many, but there are a few that go to the woods to kill a deer, just go in guns blazing.



Actually it is my bad all the way around. My poor choice of words and poor grammar. No offense was meant, and if any was taken, I apologize.
 
Originally Posted By: Grizzly JohnsonOriginally Posted By: SmokelessOriginally Posted By: mchlthmpsn30maybe ill be more invested too when my loads can control wind, temp, humidity, air pressure, and how many other variables that can change flight. in the mean time....dead is dead.


First of all, my loads do all the things that you are complaining about. This is the reason I reload.

You do not reload so your point is mute.

I am sure that if you GOOGLE "Hillbilly hunt'n support group" you will find a place to post your thought.[I am sure that there is not more than one.]

These are my thoughts at the moment.


Come on now..... I resent that remark.... NOT EVERYONE from the south (REDNECK)or mountains (HILLBILLY) go out blasting deer (or whatever) trying to "get lucky" with a kill shot.... Most of the Tn hunters I know go to great lengths in order to get the most accuracy out of their firearms.... I don't personally reload, but I do spend time at the range to see what factory ammo my guns shoot the best. I like a small group as well....

If I took your comment too serious, my bad..... just saying not many, but there are a few that go to the woods to kill a deer, just go in guns blazing.

And redneck is not a term reserved for just the South. It was actually started in Appalachia. Its history, man! But that may be a moot, er, mute...um irrelevant.
 
The term REDNECK did originate in Appalachia during the mining wars. The UMW wore a red hankerchief around their necks to seperate themselves from the non union workers. There is a little bit of trivia for everybody.
 
So it's been a while since I posted this last but I was working on an experiment and that is the reason why I started this thread. I had a custom rifle built 3yrs ago. The barrel I chose was from a very reputable barrel maker and I had I chambered in 243. Everything I tried I couldn't get that gun to shoot I tried different primers powders brass and lots of different bullets but it wouldn't shoot. So I sent it back and they replaced the barrel this barrel was the same way I took it to another gunsmith and had him try to figure some out I had taken it back to the original smith also but both of them came to the same conclusion bad barrel. So I sent it back to the barrel manufacturer and asked for my money back they gave me my money back and I ordered a barrel from another barrel maker. Wow this one really shot sub quarter groups at 100yds. But i still wasn't satisfied with it because it was to heavy this barrel was remington varmint contour and my original barrel was a #4 fluted and that is what I really wanted a light weight sporter to carry around all day long. Well when I sent my original barrel back and they replaced it they sent it back with the replacement. It had been sitting around collecting dust for a year and I started thinking maybe the barrel just didn't like a 243 maybe it would like a 6x47 lapua I did a lot of research about this caliber before I had it rechambered and turned the rifle into a switch barrel. That's why I started this post originally. Did it work? You bet ya it's a flippin lazer beam this load I took a pic of is 39.5gr of varget with an average 5 shot velocity of 3524fps with 68gr bergers. So is it that this cartridge more accurate than say a 243 which was the original chamber of the barrel I don't know maybe maybe not?

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