Called in Domestic Dog

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PineCone

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Today I called in a domestic dog. Rabbit distress/pup distress calls.
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I had my back towards a big frozen lake. The wind was blowing onto the ice and I hoped any coyote would have to come into the open to wind me. I was about to quit my stand so I look around, and behind me and cross-wind this big animal is running towards me about 1/4 mi out on the ice. I roll over prone to get a better look at him. Its looks very black against the white background and its BIG, but it is not running like a coyote. It's coming in fast so I stand up as it goes into a cove behind the trees 100 feet away. I start walking towards it as it's slowing down. At about 50 ft. away I said "Come here boy!".

Well, the dog takes off at lightning speed due south across the cove (not where it came from). I don't think I have ever seen a dog run so fast. His right rear leg seemed to have a limp. I couldn't figure out if it was a "wild" dog or a pet. I got out my binoculars and scanned everywhere. Nobody around and the nearest inhabited homes are 1/2 mile away accross a road on another lake. I don't know how it would have heard my call from that far away or what it was coming to kill.

I'm not happy about this mutt on the loose because I plan to call this area more because there is alot of coyote sign around.

Question: I know alot of you guys call in dogs now and then but, what do they do when they see you?
Do they run like this one, or do they start wagging their tail looking for a kiss?

P.S. I got some photos of his paw prints in the snow. They are 3 1/2 (Yes 3 1/2) inches wide !!! I will post them when I develop the film.
PC
 
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I called in a dog last week on one of my stands. He came in behind me (about 10 yards) but never came out to the caller. He never acted like he knew I was around.

A half mile is not far for a dog to travel at all.

I served on the grand jury yesterday and found out that shooting a dog or cat in Texas is a felony. I don't guess I knew that. One of the cases was a "cruelty to animals" charge for shooting a dog (puppy) that getting in some guys yard.

According to the DA, the law states you can shoot to protect livestock, but not otherwise.
 
I called in a pair of dogs once in KS. They came from a farm that was about 1/4 mile fron our set. They actually kept barking at the distress sounds, but they kept coming a little at a time. Finally, when they got about 50 yards from me, I let a out a howl, and they both tucked tail and ran like thier tails were on fire!!! We got a good laugh out of that.
I don't think one dog, no matter how big it is, is going to hurt your calling area enough to worry about. ANd like Yellowhammer siad, 1/2 mile isn't that far for a dog to hear you and to travel!
 
Not to jump the thread, but my first stand was on a small farm where a friend was having problems with yotes and a buddy and I went out to see if we could help.
We got set up, laid out the JS with some distressed rabbit calls, were totally out of sight on the edge of a wooded draw that allowed us to see about 400 yds,got covered with brush and leaves and fired up the caller.
Within about 3 minutes, two of his three horses were coming at a run and almost stepped on me. Fortunately my buddy saw them in just enough time to warn me so I could get out of the way.
They were really concerned about something being hurt.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
Wow! Shooting a dog or cat is felony there? That's severe.
According to my NH Hunting Digest (summary of regulations) it is "unlawful to shoot a domestic dog in pursuit of wildlife". I don't know what the penalty is.
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Wow! Shooting a dog or cat is felony there? That's severe.



Here is how it reads: Texas Penal Code

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42.09. CRUELTY[0] TO ANIMALS[0]. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally or knowingly:(1) tortures an animal[0]; 5) kills, seriously injures, or administers poison to
an animal[0], other than cattle, horses, sheep, swine, or goats,
belonging to another without legal authority or the owner's
effective consent;
6) causes one animal[0] to fight with another;
(7) uses a live animal[0] as a lure in dog race training
or in dog coursing on a racetrack;
(8) trips a horse;

An offense under Subsection (a)(1), (5), (6), (7), or (8) is a state jail felony, except that the offense is a felony of the third degree if the person has previously been convicted two times under this section.

 
I had a lab come in to my turkey calling a few springs ago... I could not believe my eyes! He just come wondering up to me, wagging his tail and panting? I knew the jig was up, so I stood up and started back to my truck... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
I've called up a couple of bird dogs and their hunting owners while coyote hunting during upland game seasons. The look on their faces was priceless when they finally see me. One dog stood there and growled at me, I never moved and when the hunter walked up, I said loudly "GOOD MORNING", man that guy about lost it right there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif He never saw me until he was almost on top of me and only after I spoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
One night While calling a spot we have had a lot of luck at and have come to expect action nearly every time, my brother and I were set up next to a paved road and just a few minutes into the calling sequence there were two sets of eyes running down the road towards us. I heard their foot falls on the pavement and knew it wasn't a fox, held up my hand and said "Hold it dogs" They just sat there 10 feet away and looked at us and never even barked we put the lasers right on their eyes and they never moved until we yelled at them.

SOR
 
No collars and no homes for miles, no more wild dog. Now if they have collars or their are homes within two or three miles I give em a brake. I have seen what wild dogs do to deer and elk, no different than wolves or coyotes so they get the same treatment, accute dose of lead and prolonged sleep.
 
Now you have me curious. Im going to check the regs here in NY. I was always taught to put down a dog that was running deer ect. Thats alot different from a dog comming to a caller though.

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No collars and no homes for miles, no more wild dog. Now if they have collars or their are homes within two or three miles I give em a brake. I have seen what wild dogs do to deer and elk, no different than wolves or coyotes so they get the same treatment, accute dose of lead and prolonged sleep.



What if someone was just out jogging with thier dog and the dog got seperated from it's owner? I think I would have a hard time shooting a dog. There's always a chance it's someones pet.A mile or two really isn't that far for a dog to be away from home when you think about it.
 
I can definatley say I doubt were I have hunted coyotes someone would be out jogging, but if they were and there dog came to my calling I would hope it had the collar, but if it comes to the call aggressive no collar, no more dog, just a rule I live by and the deer and elk and rabbits and all other manner of wildlife that get harrassed and ate by wild dogs are better off. But that is just me, some cant shoot ole yeller, I only do if Im 99% sure hes reverted back to their wild ways.
 
1 time i was out hunting a ranch, and drove up to the rancher. He came right to the truck as i was getting out, and said, "Glad it's you. See those 2 dogs over there??Shoot 'em". They were actually quite aways off, and were spooked by the ruckus, and i had to hunt them with a Model 7 17 Rem. to get them. They were Great Pyrenees, and had been running this guys cattle for awhile. After several attempts to try and get the dog's owner to keep them penned up, he just started killing the dogs to protect his investment. Dog owner finally pulled up stakes, and left. I didn't like killing those dogs tho. Hope i don't have to do it again.
 
I have got hundreds of stories about shooting feral dogs folks dump out near our ranch. Suffice to say, we kill them if they are running livestock, or just packing up and being a nuisance, collars or no collars. It is an unwritten rule around here you keep your dogs up or they risk being shot if we catch them mixing it up w/ stock. The local Warden even calls me to let me know of any strays he has seen roaming around. People are terrible for dumping dogs they no longer want. If they dump pups I usually pick them up and take them to the Humane Society along with money to support them, hoping they may find a good home and have a second chance.
 
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Wow! Shooting a dog or cat is felony there? That's severe.



Here is how it reads: Texas Penal Code

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42.09. CRUELTY[0] TO ANIMALS[0]. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally or knowingly:

5) kills, seriously injures, or administers poison to
an animal[0], other than cattle, horses, sheep, swine, or goats, belonging to another without legal authority or the owner's effective consent;





IT would appear that the operative words here are "belonging to another".

If your puppy wanders into my yard, it still belongs to you.

But it appears that ferel dogs and ferel cats are not covered by this law.
 
Good catch on the loophole CatShooter. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Guess they would have to find the owner and prove ownership to press charges. Actually, here in TX we have found people are reluctant to fess up to ownership if their dogs get loose and run stock. Here is another stupid twist on TX law: If a drunk runs thru my fence at nite and the cattle gets out and another motorist hits one in the road, I am responsible for damage. If I did not even know it happened I am still at fault for not maintaing control over my livestock. Geez..
If someone gets killed, I am doomed to bankruptcy after the lawsuits fly. Therefore I don't know whose cow it was that got out. So why can't I sue the State, who owns the deer, when I hit one in the road? Nope, instead I get a ticket for killing a deer out of season when my truck hits it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
KD223...

I knew there was a reason I left Texas.

I lived in PA for 8 years, in an area that had a lot of cabins for rent for the summers. People would rent the cabins for the summer, and park their wife and kids there for a few months... and give the kids a "puppy" for the summer.

When September rolled around, they would load up the car, and drive back to New Yawk City... abandoning the puppys on the porch of the cabin.

By October, they would pack up in groups of 6 to over 20, and were the terror of the area. They were hungry and not afraid of people. They would run through the residential areas like hoodlums.

You would even find posters in the shopping market where the packs were last seen.

And every year we would form up and hunt them to the ground.

Three years ago, a friend's father was having trouble with a pack of ferel dogs taking down his calves and injuring his milking cows. I don't know the going rates for a good milker, but he said that he lost over $20,000 in four weeks.

I spent a weekend on the seven dogs. All were very big - 40 to 70 pounds. No poodles in that bunch.

I have found that many laws are to protect privatly owned pets, and many hunters misread into the laws and think they protect ferel animals - read the laws carefully - you might find that you can shoot these pests - just look for a collar first... or "Your Honor, I was hunting rabbits, and this dog attacked me from behind, and I shot it in self defence. I had no choice"... just make sure you don't shoot a manicured poodle /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

My take on it is that wild domesticated animals (ferel pets) in the wild are on borrowed time - no collar, no owner, too badd!
 
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Nope, instead I get a ticket for killing a deer out of season when my truck hits it.




Now you are just blowing smoke, because they don't do that.
 
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