case lube

Originally Posted By: getfoxyI fugured more people would be using unique, looks like Im alone lol.

Originally Posted By: hm1996I used one shot one time resulting in a stuck case right off the bat. Switched to Forster Sportlube and haven't stuck a case since. I think Hornady case lube is same product, different label as I have used both w/same results.

......243 WSSM cases squalled like a banshee w/Imperial (but I will say, never stuck a case). Switched back to Hornady and no more groaning during sizing operation. IMO, Hornady is better lube than the Imperial, based on use on/WSSM cases.

You're not alone, Gary, (Hornady) Unique is as good a case lube as there is IMO. Heck, it even makes good water proofing for your hunting boots
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I threw out my case pad years ago and I'm never going back. I make my own lube with pure liquid lanolin and 99% Isopropyl Alcohol. I like to use the plastic inserts from 50 cartridge ammo boxes to hold the cases close together while spraying them thoroughly from four sides. When they dry in a couple minutes, I roll them in my hands to spread the lanolin evenly. You will never get a neck dent or lube build up in your dies with this method.

It's also important to get enough spray lube inside the necks or the expander ball will be harder to withdraw from the casing. You also risk pulling up or miss-aligning the case neck without adequate lube inside. In extreme cases the headspace clearance can be affected by high friction on the expander ball in the case necks.

If I am doing some light case forming, such as forming 8MM Mausers from 30-06, I will do this operation 2 times. I have never come close to sticking a case in this manner. Heavy case forming could be a different story, but I have not done any in several years. For normal case re-sizing the heavy sticky lubes are not necessary. The heavy lubes can be more problematic on progressive presses for reasons that I won't get into right now.

The lanolin wipes off easily and is actually good for your hands. Most pump-type hair spray bottles will give you a nice fine mist that gets into the inside of the case necks.
 
We went to Appleton, Wi today and stopped at Scheels and I picked up some Hornady One shot so is it as easy to use as it seems. Spray it on evenly, let dry a couple of minutes and size? There is no wiping off?
 
The way I do it is I tape a piece of plastic (like Seran Wrap or a baggie) to the bench top.
Lay out 10 or 20 brass, all facing the same direction.
I spray the bases with a quick burst and then into the neck with a quick burst.
Roll 180 degrees and repeat both base and inside the neck.
Then I roll them back and forth a bit to make sure all of the exterior surface is coated.
Then resize.
I don't bother wiping anything off, it just wears off naturally as you handle the brass.
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Originally Posted By: hm1996Originally Posted By: getfoxyI fugured more people would be using unique, looks like Im alone lol.

Originally Posted By: hm1996I used one shot one time resulting in a stuck case right off the bat. Switched to Forster Sportlube and haven't stuck a case since. I think Hornady case lube is same product, different label as I have used both w/same results.

......243 WSSM cases squalled like a banshee w/Imperial (but I will say, never stuck a case). Switched back to Hornady and no more groaning during sizing operation. IMO, Hornady is better lube than the Imperial, based on use on/WSSM cases.

You're not alone, Gary, (Hornady) Unique is as good a case lube as there is IMO. Heck, it even makes good water proofing for your hunting boots
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I use Sno-Seal on my boots...
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I use Lyman pad & lube. This is a very n00b question but if you use Imperial that comes in a small can, how do you apply it? A little on your finger and message onto casing?
 
Originally Posted By: The VirginianI use Lyman pad & lube. This is a very n00b question but if you use Imperial that comes in a small can, how do you apply it? A little on your finger and message onto casing?

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Originally Posted By: COYKILL I picked up some Hornady One shot so is it as easy to use as it seems. Spray it on evenly, let dry a couple of minutes and size? There is no wiping off?


Actually the correct way to do it is,
1. Put 50 rounds in a loading tray,
2. spray lightly from all 4 sides
3. wait 10 minutes.
4. run a case into the sizing die and then on the up stroke rip the base of the case out of the shell holder.
5. Curse a blue streak.
6. Either pry the decapping rod out the top and hammer the case out the bottom and repeat step 4, or send the dies back to the manufacturer and let them do it for you.
7. switch to a Lanolin/Alcohol lube and save the oneshot for pistol cases.
8. profit.

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Originally Posted By: ricky_arthurOriginally Posted By: COYKILL I picked up some Hornady One shot so is it as easy to use as it seems. Spray it on evenly, let dry a couple of minutes and size? There is no wiping off?


Actually the correct way to do it is,
1. Put 50 rounds in a loading tray,
2. spray lightly from all 4 sides
3. wait 10 minutes.
4. run a case into the sizing die and then on the up stroke rip the base of the case out of the shell holder.
5. Curse a blue streak.
6. Either pry the decapping rod out the top and hammer the case out the bottom and repeat step 4, or send the dies back to the manufacturer and let them do it for you.
7. switch to a Lanolin/Alcohol lube and save the oneshot for pistol cases.
8. profit.

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Were you looking over my shoulder the one and only time I decided to give one shot a try?

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It's funny now............wasn't then.

Regards,
hm
 
Originally Posted By: ricky_arthurOriginally Posted By: COYKILL I picked up some Hornady One shot so is it as easy to use as it seems. Spray it on evenly, let dry a couple of minutes and size? There is no wiping off?


Actually the correct way to do it is,
1. Put 50 rounds in a loading tray,
2. spray lightly from all 4 sides
3. wait 10 minutes.
4. run a case into the sizing die and then on the up stroke rip the base of the case out of the shell holder.
5. Curse a blue streak.
6. Either pry the decapping rod out the top and hammer the case out the bottom and repeat step 4, or send the dies back to the manufacturer and let them do it for you.
7. switch to a Lanolin/Alcohol lube and save the oneshot for pistol cases.
8. profit.

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You did leave out Step One that's written on the can that may save you some of the above steps.
1.Disassemble sizing die and thoroughly clean inside of die removing other lubricant.Other lubricants form a protective barrier and can limit the effectiveness of One Shot.
 
The mere fact here that some here are less intelligent than a can of One Shot scares me.
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First of all, you have to be smarter than your lube
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I have never got a case stuck due to One Shot. Never. Have used it on 1000s of cartridges of all shapes and sizes. If you are spraying them in a loading block, you have to make sure the lube gets down low enough toward the bottom of the cases(case heads). Do so, and you can be a satisfied One Shot user also
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunThe mere fact here that some here are less intelligent than a can of One Shot scares me.
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First of all, you have to be smarter than your lube
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I have never got a case stuck due to One Shot. Never. Have used it on 1000s of cartridges of all shapes and sizes. If you are spraying them in a loading block, you have to make sure the lube gets down low enough toward the bottom of the cases(case heads). Do so, and you can be a satisfied One Shot user also
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So everyone that has stuck a case using oneshot is dummer than an aerosol can?

Good to know.
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Venatic,
Actually the .223 dies I was using were new, they had never had any other lube in them at the time and I stuck 3 cases using oneshot, before I wised up(is someone as dumb as me allowed to use the term wise?) to the fact that there were better (and cheaper) methods of lubing cases. YMMV

Guess that makes me only 1/3 as smart as an aerosol can.
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I have sized far more more brass with lanolin lubes and never had a problem. so I guess I'm at least as smart as a plastic spray bottle and that should count for something.

 
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I have had stuck cases also. But not many. I guess you could say that I am less intelligent than a lube pad
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With One Shot, I'm fairly certain the problem I alluded to is about the only way to get a case stuck while using it. Certain cartridges sit deeper in certain types of loading blocks, so it is possible to not get enough spray down towards the case heads.

As for the lube pads, I got a case or 2 stuck dry running a couple after thinking the die probably had enough lube in it already. This was years ago, and I think I was using Lee dies.

I always have Lee lube, Imperial, RCBS pad and lube on hand. Always. But when I load a large amount of cases, I just use One Shot. I think I have only had 2-3 stuck cases ever. But never with One Shot.......
 
Ricky not sure what the issue was in your particular case but I would advise folks to clean even new dies as they may some type lubricant for storage. I like 2muchgun have not had any issues with One Shot and I have used 10-12 cans of the stuff and hey if my IQ was 2 points higher I would be as smart as a Thermos bottle cause it at least knows to keep" hot things hot and cold things cold".
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I have been considering trying some other spray types but then I catch One Shot on sale somewhere and end up with more.
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunThe mere fact here that some here are less intelligent than a can of One Shot scares me.
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First of all, you have to be smarter than your lube
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I have never got a case stuck due to One Shot. Never. Have used it on 1000s of cartridges of all shapes and sizes. If you are spraying them in a loading block, you have to make sure the lube gets down low enough toward the bottom of the cases(case heads). Do so, and you can be a satisfied One Shot user also
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That is why I lay mine down and spray them, roll and spray again. It gets the bases well coated. I have not had a problem use One Shot either.
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I use two reloading blocks, load the first block as always spray the top half of the case's and then take the second reloading block and put that on the top of the case's flip over remove the first block and spray the bottom half. One time I was trying to set the shoulder back .002 and because
I didn't have enough lube I actually made the case shoulder higher by a few thousands. This was very confusing at the time and I spent some time playing and finally figured it out by trail and error.
 
I bagan reloading a few weeks over 59 years ago, loading thousands of rounds of ammunition over the years using RCBS pad, Lee (lanolin Lube, I think), Forster's, Hornady Unique, Imperial, and probably a few others I do not recall without ever sticking a case. I had to extract the very first case using One Shot after it locked up in my die.

Originally Posted By: venaticnot sure what the issue was in your particular case but I would advise folks to clean even new dies as they may some type lubricant for storage.

This may very well have been my problem as well because I did not clean the die before switching lubes.

Far be it from me to cast any aspersions on anyone's intelligence just because they have had a stuck case, but , I did manage to muster just barely enough intelligence to switch back to a product known to me to perform after sticking just one case w/One Shot. Not sure just where that places me on the Ricter scale of intelligence, however
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As has been stated it is extremely important to be sure base of case is lubed sufficiently, no matter what lube you choose to use, as that is the area that produces the most friction in the die, with the possible exception on reforming a case requiring pushing should back a half inch or so as in making 308 brass from 30-06.

Regards,
hm
 
I have used Hornady One Shot for at least the last 6 years and have never had a stuck case. You need to make sure you are using enough. Also, every once and a while give a quick spray into the sizing die itself. Won't use anything else right now.
 
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