Nobody said the Cedar contest was a "calling" contest. It was billed a "hunting" contest. Supposedly Hurst puts on the contest for fun. As Tom said, it isn't up to them to determine who hunts legally and who doesn't. The rules do state that all coyotes must be taken legally, but they are not in a position to determine what is legal and what is not. I like to hunt for fun as much as the next guy, but I don't need to pay somebody else $40 to do it. If I want to compete in a coyote calling "contest", it will be the one Satch is associated with. Those guys understand coyote calling/hunting and can write, interpret and enforce the rules. These other outfits that just put on contests for the exposure and to move merchandise don't seem to care about the outcome or how it came about. If you want to hunt contests, get the rules ahead of time and read them thoroughly. If there are loop-holes in the rules you can count on somebody trying to slip through them. Tom was the one that brought up the family hunting accusation. I had never mentioned it. They know people cheat. The point is; you have to be aware of who's putting on the contest, what they have to gain and if you believe they are above board. To my knowledge Utah Predator Callers Association is run the best, but even that won't stop people from cheating. At least they have an interest and knowledge to make their contests enjoyable. If you are competing in a contest that costs alot to enter and has BIG prizes hopefully they make the winners pass a lie-detector test. How about this scenario; Bubba and Cletus get a call from their buddy that is at the check-in. So far the first place team has 4 coyotes. Bubba and Cletus also have 4 coyotes. Their buddy has one coyote and knows he isn't going to place. The buddy meets Bubba and Cletus at the edge of town and Bubba and Cletus give him what his entry fee for the contest was in exchange for the coyote. Now Bubba and Cletus win the contest and take home two new rifles. The buddy isn't out his entry fee and everybody gets screwed.